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Derek

Derek Report 13 Nov 2011 12:48

Dea..I shouldn't bother too much about William's age....Censuses were notoriously inaccurate in that respect...........there's a lot of work being done here....some feedback from peter would be useful!! Trouble with your version of the 1861..shouldn't Joseph 1854 be on it??

Derek.

Dea

Dea Report 13 Nov 2011 12:59

Yes Derek but I am wondering if the 'William' on there is actually 'Joseph' ??? - the age is about right and we know that the real William is much older' - I think the names may have been mixed up somehow??

Will work on it this afternoon.

Dea Xxx

Derek

Derek Report 13 Nov 2011 13:19

JOSEPH BENTLEY remarried to Ann Middleton bamford in 1905 Chesterfield derbys

patchem

patchem Report 13 Nov 2011 13:20

This looks like the 1851 and 1871 William Bentley, so the one age 6 in 1861 is ?

1861 England Census
William Bentley
Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Bentley Mother's Name: Sarah Jarvis
Gender: Male Where born: Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil parish: Staveley County/Island: Derbyshire
Registration district: Chesterfield
Sub-registration district: Eckington
ED, institution, or vessel: 17c Household schedule number: 73 Piece: 2536 Folio: 59 Page Number: 12

William Bentley 21
Sarah Bentley 25
Helena Bentley 1
Sarah Jarvis 69

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2536; Folio: 59; Page: 12; GSU roll: 542986.

Dea

Dea Report 13 Nov 2011 14:15

Well Patchem - I am absolutely convinced that that 6 year old is JOSEPH !!!

I, like you had found William, already married to Sarah - I can't see how this is not 'our Joseph' ???

Dea Xxx

Peter

Peter Report 13 Nov 2011 15:45

Info on maarriage cert
Date 4/8/1878
Address Stonegravels
Father Robert Bentley occupation Cotton Weaver
Widness Ada Hudson Sarah Ann Shaw
Age of Joseph 24
Age of Marian Hudson 21
Peter

Dea

Dea Report 13 Nov 2011 16:25

Peter - do you have any comments on the 2 pages of info which have been posted on here so far for you ?

Dea x

Derek

Derek Report 13 Nov 2011 18:10

Dea...I sent him a PM asking for some input or feedback..............I'm sending you a Pm..

Derek

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 Nov 2011 20:58

1881 this looks like the same Robert from the 1861 census but re-married? (He states widower in 1861)

Name: Robert Bently
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Bently
Gender: Male
Where born: M Woodhouse, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Mansfield
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address: 20 Nursery
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Frame Work Knitter

Registration district: Mansfield
Sub-registration district: Mansfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3317
Folio: 69
Page Number: 55
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Bently 65
Elizabeth Bently 62


????

Marriages Mar 1863 (>99%)
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BENTLEY Robert Mansfield 7b 72
CHAPMAN Elizabeth Mansfield 7b 72
HUNTINGTON Leonard Mansfield 7b 72
JONES Hannah Mansfield 7b 72



???

Marriages Dec 1877 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bentley Robert Mansfield 7b 109
Ranes Elizabeth Mansfield 7b 109
Shepherd Arthur Mansfield 7b 109
Winfield Fanny Emma Mansfield 7b 109

Peter

Peter Report 13 Nov 2011 21:43

Thank you all for your imput it as been very help full.
Thanks again
Peter

Peter

Peter Report 16 Nov 2011 20:09

Hi All
Is the Ann Bentley in the 1841 Census Robert Bentleys sister or his wife.
Thanks again for all the other info you all posted
Peter

patchem

patchem Report 16 Nov 2011 23:10

The 1841 census does not specify relationships.

Peter

Peter Report 26 Nov 2011 16:28

Hi All
Could any one please find the 1871 census for Robert Bentley born 1814-15.
Best Regards
Peter

patchem

patchem Report 26 Nov 2011 19:51

?
1871 England Census
Robert Bentley
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814
Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Mansfield Woodhouse, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Mansfield
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Mansfield County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England
Registration district: Mansfield Sub-registration district: Mansfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b Household schedule number: 393
Piece: 3471 Folio: 72 Page Number: 5

Robert Bentley 57 Married Framework Knitter 20 Nursery

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3471; Folio: 72; Page: 5; GSU roll: 839426.

Peter

Peter Report 26 Nov 2011 20:38

Hi patchem
is there any other of the family on the 1871 census who was his wife in the 1861 census it as him as widow.
Thanks
Peter

patchem

patchem Report 26 Nov 2011 21:16

No.
He is on his own in that dwelling.
Wife gone on a visit?

Peter

Peter Report 26 Nov 2011 22:06

Hi patchem
If he was marid in the 1871 census the Elizabeth in the 1881 census must beElizabeth Chapman marid 1863 and not Elizabeth Ranes as that marriage was 1877. Or could it still Elizabeth Davidson and she was also visiting in the 1861 census.What are your thoughts on this.
Best Regards
Peter

patchem

patchem Report 26 Nov 2011 23:23

Robert states widowed in 1861, married with no wife showing in 1871, and married with wife showing in 1881.
Therefore wife would appear to be Elizabeth Chapman. Certificate would confirm.

Peter

Peter Report 26 Nov 2011 23:50

Hi patchem
yes that is what thought but ihad it from another sorce that it was Elizabeth Ranes marid to robert so i think you are right i will send for certificate.

Nottsgirl

Nottsgirl Report 27 Nov 2011 15:04

Hi All,

If any of you are still following this thread Peter has asked me to do some look up for him so to put you all in the frame
Robert Bentley married Ann Rowbotham 25 Dec 1836 Ann died March 1842
next marriage to Elizabeth Davison 23 April 1843 Elizabeth died 1860
next possible marriage to Hannah Jones 15 Feb 1863 not Elizabeth Chapman as first thought dont know when Hannah possible death Dec 1871 aged 52yrs
next marriage Elizabeth Ranes 15 Oct 1877.

From above posts Robert is married on 1871 census but on his own where is Hannah??.

I'll check all the marriages when I'm next in the archives but unable to check census so can some one look for a poss Hannah please.

Wendy