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chrissiex

chrissiex Report 6 Dec 2011 00:11

I was editing rootgatherer :-)

and the only Alexander Dudley Gordon in England/Wales married in 1862 so he seems unlikely !

you are in the same boat as me with no 1911 sub I think ...

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 6 Dec 2011 00:11

HOUSEHOLD GORDON DUDLEY A M 1894 17 Blean Kent

Doing a wildcard search, is he living with these people?

HOUSEHOLD ADAMS GERALD D M 1901 10 Blean Kent
HOUSEHOLD BINGHAM CHRISTOPHER M 1900 11 Blean Kent
HOUSEHOLD BINGHAM PHILIP W M 1899 12 Blean Kent
HOUSEHOLD DALE WILLIAM D M 1901 10 Blean Kent
HOUSEHOLD EWALD FRITZ E H M 1898 13 Blean Kent
HOUSEHOLD EWALD HOWARD P M 1901 10 Blean Kent
HOUSEHOLD GRANT ALFRED P M 1899 12 Blean Kent
HOUSEHOLD GREENWAY RONALD C M 1901 10 Blean Kent
HOUSEHOLD HAMMERTON LESLIE T M 1897 14 Blean Kent
HOUSEHOLD HARDY HERBERT A M 1900 11 Blean Kent
HOUSEHOLD KENNAN MYLES M 1894 17 Blean Kent
HOUSEHOLD MAHOMED ROBERT W M 1895 16 Blean Kent
HOUSEHOLD RANDALL JONES HENRY W M 1899 12 Blean Kent

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 6 Dec 2011 00:13

Yep! No sub. Chrissiex! Pain in the derriere at times like this!

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 6 Dec 2011 00:15

Is this him in 1901 - a whole list of boarders!

Highbury House School.

Name: Dudley A Gordon
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Clapham, Surrey, England

Civil parish: St Mary Magdalene
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hastings
Sub-registration district: St Mary Magdalen
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 61
Piece: 869
Folio: 63
Page Number: 14

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 6 Dec 2011 00:19

and those are just the *A* surnames ... trying for *o* for example gets a whooole lot more ;)

- edit - I was meaning the 1911 census, same thing in 1901 I see


it says 'household' but it seems to be an institution really, some sort of home for boys

can't find any adults in the household, staff must have been enumerated at home

this Dudley being so close in age to Ruby Carash/Garner ... he would be my bet I think


I wonder ... boarding school and is he the one born in India ? no that one is Dudley Mellville Gordon 6 Mar 1895 per familsearch

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 6 Dec 2011 00:21

Name: Dudley A Gordon
Birth Date: abt 1893
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1968
Age at Death: 75
Registration district: Chichester
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 5h
Page: 652

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 6 Dec 2011 00:23

how about the possibility of another Canadian connection ?

Name: Dudley Alex Gordon
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 17 Oct 1896
Birthplace: Wallaceburg, Kent, Ontario
Father's Name: David A. Gordon
Mother's Name: Rose Fox
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02211-3
System Origin: Canada-EASy
Source Film Number: 1906132
Reference Number: 195

name: Dudley Alex Gordon
event: Birth
event date: 17 Oct 1896
event place: Wallaceburg, Kent, Ontario
gender: Male
father: David A. Gordon
mother: Rose Fox
registration number: 195
digital folder number:


edit ... no ... Dudley A Gordon was in Wallaceburg with parents David and Rose in the 1901 Canadian census ... just leaving him to rule him out

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 6 Dec 2011 00:28

That woudn't rule him out for fathering children in 1913?

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 6 Dec 2011 00:32

true - but he couldn't be the one in Hastings in 1901 :-)

Highbury House School ... various people on the net looking for info about

eg http://boards.ancestry.ca/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=7791&p=localities.britisles.england.ssx.general

Could someone please help me? I am looking for Highbury House a school for gentlemen which was located in the early 1900's on the corner of Church and Edward Road, Hastings.

so it does seem to have been a posh boarding school rather than an industrial school or the like

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 6 Dec 2011 00:33

Used a credit on SP, there are no *Dudley* Gordon's born there that could have fathered a child in 1913.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 6 Dec 2011 00:37

http://www.myhometown-schools.co.uk/school_members.aspx?schoolid=52890

Sorry Chrissiex, I need to log off for tonight.

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 6 Dec 2011 00:38

we're obsessed :-)

1892 to 1895 ... no Dudley A born in Wandsworth reg dist ( covers Clapham ) except

Births Dec 1893
Yates Dudley Arthur Wandsworth 1d 619

also no Alexander Dudley


edit

a middle initial sometimes also stood for an original surname ( eg if the child was using a stepfather's surname, birth surname would be the middle initial ) ... but also no Dudley with surname A born in Wandsworth 1892-1895

I think I will have to join you rootgatherer ! ... you know what I mean :-)

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 6 Dec 2011 00:54

here's that 1917 marriage for Emily Goddard and Dudley A Gordon, from ancestry


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Emily Goddard

Name: Emily Goddard
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Spouse Name: Dudley Arthur Gordon
Spouse Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1 Aug 1917
Parish: Deptford St John
Borough: Lewisham
Father Name: Arthur Goddard
Spouse Father Name: D C Gordon
Register Type: Parish Register


from image:-

Dudley

Bachelor
Age:- 23
Occupation:- 2nd Lieut. R.F.A.
Address:- 4 Cranley (or Crawley) Place, Kensington
Father occupation:- Gentleman

Emily

Spinster
Age:- 25
no occupation shown
Address:- Heath Villa, Virginia Water, Surrey
Father occupation:- Clerk of Works

Witnesses:- William Goddard and ???? G Oscar xxxxxxx (impossible to read!)




sylvia

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 6 Dec 2011 01:12

well then ... that marriage wasn't Alexander Dudley Gordon ... but it could still be our Dudley Gordon ... maybe ... who knows ... :-)

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 6 Dec 2011 01:19

and the only Dudley A Gordon that comes up is the one at school on the 1901 Census

I've been searching for a baptism ..... if papa was a Gentleman, then child must have been baptised (yes?) ............ but it's not showing on ancestry or familysearch.



sylvia

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 6 Dec 2011 09:49

The other name on the marriage is I think is C Oscar Gridley.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 6 Dec 2011 10:47

Dudley Arthur Gordon's medal card is on Ancestry. Anybody any good at deciphering these?

Name: Dudly Arthur Gordon
Regiment or Corps: Honourable Artillery Company, Royal Field Artillery
Regimental Number: 438, 438



Tried a free search on the 1911 and there are 9 Grodons who give their occupations as Gentleman! Even worse there are pages of them that are engineers!!!!

Lucy

Lucy Report 6 Dec 2011 13:37

I am not ignoring but on my phone ill b on the laptop this evening just to add to the dudley gordon he was present at his daughters marrigae in 1939 camberwell given his name as stewart if that helps

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 6 Dec 2011 13:43

Thanks lucy. As you can see we are just looking at as many possibilities for Mr. Gordon as we can. Hopefully, we will find the correct one by a process of elimination. The problem is there are so many that gave their occupation as "engineer" in 1911!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hope you managed to get some of the details from the thread typed up last night to help you clarify where everyone fits in.

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 6 Dec 2011 13:56

Just before I go out...

I noticed on the 1901 that there was another Gordon child at the same school as Dudley.
GORDON, Cecil O Boarder Single M 11 1890 Schoolboy born Clapham

Chrissie found the only birth in Wandsworth for a Dudley Arthur but his surname was Yates.

Well-lo and behold...the only one for good old Cecil is:
Births Sep 1889
Yates Cecil Oscar Wandsworth 1d 615

His pension records are on Ancestry and he gives his next of kin as uncle Mr. Gridley. Mr Gridley was one of the witnesses at Dudley's marriage. (Mel finally deciphered that scrawl!!) Mr Gridley's wife was a Yates.


Still have no idea if he's the right Dudley or who his parents were but at least we know why his birth wasn't coming up.

Maureen