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James Miles. Bishopstone, Wilts

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David

David Report 22 Nov 2012 18:21

thanks for the help guys and the telling off Reggie! point taken but don't know how the 'marked as answered' tick came to be.. He gave his age as 24 on his marriage certificate in 1875. All very helpful, will try baptisms.

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Nov 2012 22:45

Don't assume - until you have checked thoroughly - that the census info giving birth year as 1853 is NOT the person you are researching..........

He may have wished to appear older than his wife............

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Nov 2012 22:43

1911 England Census

Name: James Miles
Age in 1911: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Bishopstone, Wiltshire, England
Civil parish: Lyford Draycott Moor Kingston Bagpuize
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Street Address: 4 Brook Cottages, Lyford, Wantage, Berks
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Farm Labourer Milker On Farm
Registration district: Abingdon
Registration District Number: 117
Sub-registration district: Fyfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 37A
Piece: 6448
Household Members:
Name Age
James Miles 60
Elizabeth Miles 60
John Miles 29
Percy Miles 20

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Nov 2012 22:40

If his father wasn't named on the marriage cert, he was illegitimate.

What was his recorded age when he married?


Until 1875, there were no penalties for not registering births.......so his probably went unrecorded......all the more likely in view of the circumstances.

Try looking for a baptism

jansmith

jansmith Report 21 Nov 2012 22:39

http://parish.bishopstone.net/ this one near Swindon as this is nearer to Uffington than Salisbury Bishopstone

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Nov 2012 22:38

You are unlikely to get much further help unless you remove the 'marked as answered' tag.

That is supposed to indicate that your query has been FULLY resolved

People seeing the TICK against your thread will ignore it

jansmith

jansmith Report 21 Nov 2012 22:32

do you know this?
There are two parishes in Wiltshire with the name Bishopstone. One is in the north of the county, on the Wiltshire/Berkshire border, the other is in the south on the Wiltshire/Hampshire border.

David

David Report 21 Nov 2012 18:39

Hi all again, back trying to make headway on this after enforced absence. I am still struggling to find birth and death records details of James Miles, born 1851 at Bishopstone. He appears in the 1911 census, living at Brook Cottages in Lyford near, Wantage, Berkshire. The help given above seems to indicate possibly another James Miles in Bishopstone, born in 1853. I'm confused!! Help please.

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AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 29 Dec 2011 21:59

1881

working my way along the same road I found these - most likely related

Henry MILES Head M Male 40 Bishopstone, Wiltshire, England Ag Lab
Jane MILES Wife M Female 39 Bishopstone, Wiltshire, England
George TURNER Step Son U Male 17 Bishopstone, Wiltshire, England Under Carter(Ag Lab)
Robt. TURNER Step Son U Male 8 Coxwell, Berkshire, England Scholar
Edward W. TURNER Step Son U Male 4 Bishopstone, Wiltshire, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling Dixons Yd
Census Place Bishopstone, Wiltshire, England
Family History Library Film 1341486
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2016 / 8
Page Number 8

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 29 Dec 2011 21:47

1881

James MILES Head M Male 30 Bishopstone, Wiltshire, England Ag Lab
Elizabeth MILES Wife M Female 29 Uffington, Berkshire, England
Beatrice MILES Daur U Female 5 Bishopstone, Wiltshire, England Scholar
Albert MILES Son U Male 3 Bishopstone, Wiltshire, England Scholar
Mary MILES Daur U Female 1 Bishopstone, Wiltshire, England
MILES Son Male 1 Bishopstone, Wiltshire, England
Ellen GARTON Sister In Law U Female 14 Uffington, Berkshire, England Domestic Servant


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Source Information:
Dwelling West End
Census Place Bishopstone, Wiltshire, England
Family History Library Film 1341486
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2016 / 12
Page Number 16

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 29 Dec 2011 21:45



name: James Miles
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 50
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Bishopstone, Wiltshire
record type: Household
registration district: Swindon
sub-district: Swindon
ecclesiastical parish: Bishopstone St Mary
civil parish: Bishopstone
county: Wiltshire

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 29 Dec 2011 21:44

spouse: Elizabeth Miles
child: Beatrice Miles


name: James Miles
age: 30
gender: Male
birth year: 1851
birthplace: Bishopstone, Wiltshire, England
relationship to head of household: Head
marital condition: Married
profession/occupation: Ag Lab
address: West End
census place: Bishopstone, Wiltshire, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341486
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 2016 / 12
page number: 16

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 29 Dec 2011 21:39

name: Elizabeth Gorton
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Female
age: 9
relationship to head of household: Daughter
birthplace: Dawler, Berkshire
record type: Household
registration district: Faringdon
sub-district: 3 Buckland
civil parish: Uffington
county: Berkshire

jansmith

jansmith Report 29 Dec 2011 18:37

same family in 1861

Reg. District: Highworth Sub District: 2 Swindon
Parish: Bishopstone Enum. District: 1 E
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: The Village, Bishopstone
County: Wiltshire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
MILES, Susannah Head Widow F 60 1801 Field Work
Bishopstone
Wiltshire
MILES, Henry Son Unmarried M 20 1841 Agricultural Labourer
Bishopstone
Wiltshire
MILES, James Grandson M 8 1853 Scholar
Bishopstone
Wiltshire

Thelma

Thelma Report 29 Dec 2011 18:36

You may have to do research to find his mother.

1851 England Census
about Susanna Miles Name: Susanna Miles
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Miles
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Bishopstone, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Bishopstone
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Highworth
Sub-registration district: Highworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 3
Piece: 1833
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
John Miles 55
Susanna Miles 45
John Miles 22
Henry Miles 12
==============================
1861 England Census
about James Miles Name: James Miles
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Bishopstone, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Bishopstone
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Highworth
Sub-registration district: Swindon
ED, institution, or vessel: 1e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 18
Piece: 1270
Folio: 5
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
Susannah Miles 60
Henry Miles 20
James Miles 8
=======================================
1871 England Census
about James Miles Name: James Miles
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Bishopstone, Wiltshire, England
Civil parish: Bishopstone
Town: Bishopstone
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Registration district: Highworth
Sub-registration district: Swindon
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 66
Piece: 1880
Folio: 15
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
Susan Miles 71
John Miles 43
Henry Miles 31
James Miles 18
Elizabeth Miles 11
Fanny Miles 10
=========================
1841 England Census
about Susan Miles Name: Susan Miles
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Female
Where born: Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Bishopston
Hundred: Ramsbury
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Highworth and Swindon
Sub-registration district: Swindon
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1184
Book: 12
Folio: 6
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
John Miles 40
Susan Miles 40
Caroline Miles 16
Jonathan Miles 14
Mary Miles 10
Emma Miles 7
Henry Miles 1











jansmith

jansmith Report 29 Dec 2011 18:35

?? 1871 census (1881 says born Bishopstone)

Reg. District: Highworth Sub District: Swindon
Parish: Bishopstone Enum. District: 1E
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: West End, Bishopstone
County: Wiltshire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
MILES, Susan Head F 71 1800 Wiltshire
MILES, John Son M 43 1828 Wiltshire
MILES, Henry Son M 31 1840 Wiltshire
MILES, James Grandson M 18 1853 Wiltshire
MILES, Elizabeth Granddaughter F 11 1860 Wiltshire
MILES, Fanny Granddaughter F 10 1861 Wiltshire

David

David Report 29 Dec 2011 18:18

Hi all,
can anyone help me to find further details of James Miles, my Great Grandfather. He was born in 1851, but I am unable to find birth details. He married Elizabeth Gorton, (born 1852 in Uffington), the wedding taking place in September 1875 at Bishopstone, Wilts. Unfortunately, there are no details of his father on the wedding certificate. At the time of his marriage, he was a Farm Labourer in Bishopstone. There are census records subsequent to his marriage, but I have reached a bit of an impasse with regard to his birth. Any help will be gratefully received.
Thanks
Dave