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William Holyome 1880/1890 - 1962?

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Gavin

Gavin Report 31 Dec 2011 16:49

Hi

I am looking for information relating to William Holyome, he was married to Lily Walter who was born 1886, died 1922 I think.
They had 4 children; William, Albert, Elizabeth and Ivy. I am linked to Ivy's line through her marriage to Albert White.

I have conflicting information relating to William Holyome, one contact states he was born in 1880, another says he was born in 1889 and died in 1962.
More confusing is the reference to his father, one states it was another William Holyome (1851-1916) who was married to Joyce Jones (1850-1917).... another reference has the father as Thomas Holyome b1859? and married to Emily? b1861?
Before I go further back I need to know which is the correct line to follow as William and his father both have conflicting information.

Thank you

Gavin White

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 31 Dec 2011 16:53

Do you have his marriage cert?

Marriages Jun 1911
Holyome William H Hackney 1b 872
Walter Lily M Hackney 1b 872

Jan

Helen

Helen Report 31 Dec 2011 16:55

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about William Henry Holyome
Name: William Henry Holyome
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Spouse Name: Lily Mary Walter
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 16 Apr 1911
Parish: Hackney Wick
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Thomas Holyome
Spouse Father Name: John Walter
Register Type: Parish Register

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 31 Dec 2011 16:56

Possible in view of location and middle initial but the marriage cert needed to confirm:

HOLYOME, William Head Married M 60 1851 Account Book Finisher 18 Anchor St Bethnal Green VIEW
HOLYOME, Joyce Susan Wife Married
35 years F 60 1851 1 York St Bethnal Green VIEW
HOLYOME, William Henry Son Single M 30 1881 Clerk Gloucester St Bethnal Green VIEW
HOLYOME, Arthur George Son Single M 25 1886 Account Book Finisher Gloucester St Bethnal Green VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
9665 Reference:
RG14PN9665 RG78PN513B RD188 SD9 ED32 SN338

Registration District:
West Ham Sub District:
North Leyton Enumeration District:
32 Parish:
Low Leyton

Address:
16 Wesley Road Leyton County:
Essex

Gavin

Gavin Report 31 Dec 2011 16:57

Jan

Thank you, its a start, may have parents names on if i can get hold of it..... anyone got access out there??

Gavin

val1963

val1963 Report 31 Dec 2011 16:59

Gavin

Is this his marriage to Lily

Name: William Henry Holyome
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Spouse Name: Lily Mary Walter
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 16 Apr 1911
Parish: Hackney Wick
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Thomas Holyome
Spouse Father Name: John Walter
Register Type: Parish Register

Val

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 31 Dec 2011 17:03

??

1901 England Census

Name: William Holyome
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Holyome
Mother's name: Emily Holyome
Gender: Male
Where born: Bethnal Green, London, England

Civil parish: St Luke
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
County/Island: London

Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: City Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 17

Thomas Holyome 42
Emily Holyome 40
Thomas Holyome 18
George Holyome 16
Emily Holyome 14
William Holyome 11


Helen

Helen Report 31 Dec 2011 17:07

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about George William Holyome
Name: George William Holyome
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1884
Baptism Date: 10 Aug 1884
Father's Name: Thomas Henry Holyome
Mother's name: Emily Holyome
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Philip
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

val1963

val1963 Report 31 Dec 2011 17:44

1911


William states on his marriage cert his occupation Polisher


Name: William Holyme "Holyome on the image"
Age in 1911: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Bethnal Green
Civil parish: Bethnal Green
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 16 Casket Street, Hackney Road, Bethnal Green
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: POLISHER
Registration district: Bethnal Green
Registration District Number: 17
Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Piece: 01449
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Holyme 50 ---Car Man
Emily Holyme 50
George Holyme 26
William Holyme 21
Jane Smith 39
George Smith 12
Laurence Smith 6

Val

Gavin

Gavin Report 31 Dec 2011 17:45

Jan / Val

Some confusion over ages and DoB's for William..... on the marriage information posted by Val, it shows his age in 1911 to be 26. Assuming he is the William from the 1901 census, the information for him with his family, shows him to be 11 (which would make him 21 in 1911 for his marriage).
It could be that it is the wrong William, however if it is the one shown in Jan's post as a son of William & Joyce, then he would 30 when married and again the marriage information from Val says 26.....

help...

Flick

Flick Report 31 Dec 2011 17:54

On the marriage register, William's father Thomas is a Carman

William and Lily both give their address as 12 Chapman Road

Val's 1911 post would seem to be the correct family

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 31 Dec 2011 17:58

William's father Thomas was a carman, William Henry was a polisher. Address for bride and groom given as 12 Chapman Rd.

Have pmed the marriage image to Gavin

EDIT: was still typing when Flick posted the same info first!

val1963

val1963 Report 31 Dec 2011 18:02

Gavin

I have looked at the original image of the marriage record on Ancestry

and all the information matches the 1911 census

Thomas's occupation is a "Car Man" the same on both image's and so is William's occupation " Polisher" it's just his age that's different by a few years

val

Gavin

Gavin Report 31 Dec 2011 18:03

Val, reference your last post... is the name correct? It states Holyme.... not Holyome.

val1963

val1963 Report 31 Dec 2011 18:05

Gavin

I have edited the 1911 post

Val

Flick

Flick Report 31 Dec 2011 18:07

Name: William Robert Holyome
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1889
Baptism Date: 26 Jun 1889
Father's Name: Thomas Henry Holyome ***********Carman
Mother's name: Emily Holyome
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Peter
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers
Born 7th JUNE

He may have added years when he married, to avoid appearing younger than his bride

1911 census states he was born in Bethnal Green

Flick

Flick Report 31 Dec 2011 18:08

This death matches the baptism

Name: William R Holyome
Birth Date: abt 1889
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1962
Age at Death: 73
Registration district: Edmonton
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 5e
Page: 224

Flick

Flick Report 31 Dec 2011 18:10

That's due to the transcription.........you must always allow for errors, and problems with reading indistinct handwriting.

Don't expect everything to be exact..........or you'll get very frustrated

Flick

Flick Report 31 Dec 2011 18:16

TIP:

Don't rely on what 'contacts' tell you - they may not have been very thorough in their research

Only trust what you can verify.......................

Gavin

Gavin Report 31 Dec 2011 18:18

All

This is going extremely well, thank you all for your assistance so far.
I fear I must break off for today to go and spend the New Year with friends.
Will pick up any further information tomorrow.

Many thanks again

Happy New Year to you all.

Gavin