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Parkes Marriage/Census

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Bernie

Bernie Report 23 Jan 2012 13:07

Hi
Looking for the marriage of John S Parkes a Wesleyan Minister born St Kitts West Indies c 1837 parents John & Sarah to Priscilla Ashwell born c 1838 Eaton Bray Beds.
1861 census Priscilla is living with brother Lewis in Thundridge Essex. 1871 census she is married to John and living in Madeley Shropshire with 6 children.First 2 children Mary c 1864 and Margaret c1865 born in Canton China.
Can find no census for John until 1871.
Nothing as far as I can see on free BMD or familysearch.

Thank you
Bernie

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Jan 2012 13:13

just in passing not found an overseas marriage though !

Name: PARKES, Mary Catharine
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1966
Consulate: Canton
Country: China
Year: 1860-1865
Volume: 3
Page: 421
Record source: GRO Consular Birth Indices (1849 to 1965)


Name: PARKES, Margaret Ashwell
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1966
Consulate: Canton
Country: China
Year: 1860-1865
Volume: 3
Page: 423
Record source: GRO Consular Birth Indices (1849 to 1965)

Vera

Vera Report 23 Jan 2012 13:14

event: Birth


Name: PARKES, Mary Catharine
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1966
Consulate: Canton
Country: China
Year: 1860-1865
Volume: 3
Page: 421

Record source: GRO Consular Birth Indices (1849 to 1965)


So far cannot find a marriage for her parents...


Regards Vera


Bernie

Bernie Report 23 Jan 2012 13:15

Thank you Shirley
That is the oldest Daughter

Thank you Vera

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Jan 2012 13:26

1881 census

Name: John S. (Revd.) Parkes
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Precilla A. Parkes
Gender: Male
Where born: St Kits, India
Civil parish: Bishop Stortford
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street Address: Picots Farm
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Wesleyan Minister Superanntd
Registration district: Bishop Stortford
Sub-registration district: Bishop Stortford
ED, institution, or vessel: 6a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1407
Folio: 8
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
John S. (Revd.) Parkes 44
Precilla A. Parkes 43
Mary C. Parkes 17
Margrett A. Parkes 16
Henry A. Parkes 13
Willm.F. Parkes 12
George A. Parkes 10
Maude E. Parkes 8
Marian G. Parkes

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Jan 2012 13:30

As a Wesleyan minister this was a non conformist church . Would think they married in the Wesleyan church!! which would have the record but not part of the GRO indexes. Ie their marriage wouldn't have been recognised by the C of E

Bernie

Bernie Report 23 Jan 2012 13:31

Thank you Shirley

That is the family.

John dies in 1889 in Bishops Stortford age 52

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 23 Jan 2012 13:34

Possible birth for Priscilla

Births Dec 1837 (>99%)
ASHWELL Priscilla Ann Luton 6 65



I found this marriage in Maddely Shropshire, could JOhn have been married before his marriage to Prescilla


Marriages Dec 1866 (>99%)
Brookes Ruth Madeley 6a 1245
EVANS Elizabeth Madeley 6a 1245
GROWCOTT Matthew Madeley 6a 1245
<<<PARKES John S Madeley 6a 1245

Bernie

Bernie Report 23 Jan 2012 13:34

Hi Shirley

If they were married in this country would they still need to register no matter which church or chapel they married in.

Bernie

Bernie Report 23 Jan 2012 13:36

Hi Tenerife

Will check for a death from your marriage record

Thinking about it 1866 looks too late as daughters already born in China.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Jan 2012 13:39

They married in China


Surname(s) Forename(s) Relation Year of Event Event Type Place Recordset View
Ashwell Priscilla Ann 1862 Marriage China RG33_012 Full Details Page Image

check out http://www.bmdregisters.co.uk put priscilla.s name in the search .

You have to pay for the record I,m afraid

Bernie

Bernie Report 23 Jan 2012 13:40

Thats great Shirley

Thank you to all.

Bernie

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 23 Jan 2012 13:53

Someone has a Ancestry tree with him as John Sowter Parkes in it

<<This private tree contains information about:
John Sowter Parkes
Born: 1837 in St Kitts, West Indies

You will also find attached to this person
4 attached records
8 sources
6 attached photos
17198 people in this member tree

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 23 Jan 2012 13:56

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1861-1941
about Priscilla Ann Parkes
Name: Priscilla Ann Parkes
Probate Date: 24 May 1930
Death Date: 21 Mar 1930
Death Place: Hertfordshire, England
Registry: London

(Probate to Alfred James Parkes retired clerk and William Frederick Parkes jeweller. Effects £1016 18s. Also one for Rev. John Sowter Parkes 1889)

Not sure if you have above, posting in case!.

Chris :)

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 23 Jan 2012 14:18

Possibly the marriage of Johns parents, John and Sarah this would explain your John having the middle name Sowter, his MMN

Wendy

Text: Rev. John Parkes, Wesleyan minister, & Sarah Sowter, lic. 13 Aug 1835
Book: Derby all Saints' Marriages, 1813--1837. (Marriage)
Collection: Derbyshire: - Registers of Marriages, 1558-1837b

Bernie

Bernie Report 23 Jan 2012 15:06

Thanks Tenerife

Big help

Thanks Chris

Is there a record for probate on John S Parkes 1889 Bishops Stortford

Vera

Vera Report 23 Jan 2012 15:17

John Sowter Parkes
Probate Date: 6 Jun 1889
Death Date: 9 May 1889
Death Place: Northampton, Northamptonshire, England
Registry: Principal Registry


formerly of Towester, Northampton...late Apton Road Bishops Stortford. Died Apton Road.
Priscilla Ann Parkes widow of Canton Cottage, Bishops Stortford.


Effects
£757 11s

Regards Vera

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Jan 2012 15:19

Name: John Sowter Parkes
Probate Date: 6 Jun 1889
Death Date: 9 May 1889
Death Place: Northampton, Northamptonshire, England
Registry: Principal Registry

Parkes The Reverend John Sowter estate £757.11s -6 June 1889 The will of John Sowter Parkes formerly of Towcester in the County of Northamptonshire but late of Apton Road Bishops Stortford in the County of Hertford who died 8th May 1889 at Apton Road was proved at the Principal Registry by Prisciila Ann Parkes ofCanton Cottaage Bishops Stortford , Widow, the Relict the Sole Executrix

Bernie

Bernie Report 23 Jan 2012 15:33

Thank you Vera & Shirley

Can I ask more of you please.

John Sowter Parkes arrived Hong Kong March 27th 1860 and left for England
February 15th 1865.

Are there any records for his or Priscillas voyages please.

Bernie

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 23 Jan 2012 15:42

1851 Johns parents John and Sarah nee Sowter. John was a Wesleyan Minister.Sarah jnr was born 1844 in Tortola, West Indies and James 1848 was born in Montsenat, West Indies. I think that John snr entered the church in 1831 and died in 1876. and that John S started in 1858 and died in 1889. Found this info on the net

Sarah Parkes
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Parkes
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Brailsford, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Castle Donnington
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Shardlow
Sub-registration district: Castle Donnington
ED, institution, or vessel: 7a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 2
Piece: 2140
Folio: 107
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
John Parkes 43
Sarah Parkes 42
Sarah Parkes 7
James C Parkes 3
Elizabet Cumming 17