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Thank you to everyone, i shall ring Romford Library tomorrow.

Thanks again Goodnight.

Name: John William Aubrey Hill
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Spouse Name: Harriett Edith Butler
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 3 May 1897
Parish: Bermondsey St Paul
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: John Hill
Spouse Father Name: Edward Clark Butler
Register Type: Parish Register


EDIT

Name: John Helman
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Sarah Butler
Spouse Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 21 Dec 1862
Parish: Bermondsey St Olave
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Thomas Helman
Spouse Father Name: Edward Robert Butler
Register Type: Parish Register

Thank you, Jan, Liverbird, & Mike.

Well that takes the 1904 one out for sure.
Thanks LB

Might be the right site??

http://www.havering.gov.uk/Pages/Recordsandarchivesinformationandadvice.aspx

Otherwise this is tel no for Romford Central Library, they will be able to advise you:

Tel: 01708 432387/89

Jan

Name: Patrick O'brien
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1904
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1904
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: Romford
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 292

Re electoral register - these are normally kept at the nearest main Library to the address. Obviously you can visit yourself, or if too far could ask staff to have a look though there might be a charge.
Jan

1911 England Census about Patrick O'Brien
Name: Patrick O'Brien
Age in 1911: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hammersmith London
Civil parish: Hammersmith
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 1 St Martins Cottages, Hammersmith
Occupation: SCHOOL
Registration district: Fulham
Registration District Number: 3
Sub-registration district: South Hammersmith
ED, institution, or vessel: 04
Piece: 00230
Household Members:
Name Age
John O'Brien 39
Annie B O'Brien 37
Patrick O'Brien 10
James J O'Brien 8
Kennard J O'Brien 4
Annie B O'Brien 0
William J Walsh 47>>>>VISITOR BORN DUBLIN

EDIT
1911 England Census about Patrick O'Brien
Name: Patrick O'Brien
Age in 1911: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Rotherhithe London
Civil parish: Bermondsey
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 5 Gooch Place, Albion Street, Rotherhithe
Occupation: SCHOOL
Registration district: St Olave (Bermondsey)
Registration District Number: 24
Sub-registration district: Rotherhithe
ED, institution, or vessel: 07
Piece: 01920
Household Members:
Name Age
Patrick O'Brien 45
Margaret O'Brien 45
Mary O'Brien 13
Ellen O'Brien 11
Patrick O'Brien 9
Edward O'Brien 6

Picked these 2 out... one same area Benjamin was born and the other is the area he died.


Maybe someone could find them in 1911 to see who they're related to ... if only for elimination.

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Births Sep 1901
O'BRIEN Patrick - Southwark 1d 22


Births Mar 1904
O'BRIEN Patrick - Romford 4a 631

Hi brummiejan,

Where would i look for that please.

Have you tried an electoral roll check for 14 The Chase? With a bit of luck would give full name for P. O'Brien.
Jan

Thank you Mike

No matches for either Alice or Ada marrying O.Brien

Will look to see if more children.

EDIT
Only the 3 girls listed on familysearch

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Births Dec 1877
BUTLER Harriet Edith - Camberwell 1d 887



Household:1881

Edward C. BUTLER Head M Male 35 Lambeth, Surrey, England Gas Fitter Unemployed
Harriet BUTLER Wife M Female 27 Greenwich, Kent, England
>>>>> Harriet E. BUTLER Daur U Female 3 Camberwell, Surrey, England
Alice BUTLER Daur U Female 1 Camberwell, Surrey, England
Ada BUTLER Daur U Female 3 m Deptford, Kent, England

Dwelling 6 Windmill Lane
Census Place Deptford St Paul, Kent, England

Name: John Helman
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Spouse Name: Harriett Agnes Butler
Spouse Age: 33
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 21 Apr 1889
Parish: Deptford St Paul
Borough: Lewisham
Father Name: Thomas Helman
Spouse Father Name: Samuel Smith
Register Type: Parish Register

Hi Giltterbaby,

Yes thats him.
Thank you.

Name: John Edward Aubrey Hill
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1897
Baptism Date: 1 Oct 1897
Father's Name: John William Aubrey Hill
Mother's Name: Harriet Edith Hill
Parish or Poor Law Union: St George the Martyr
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers




Possible marriage for parents

Marriages Jun 1897 (>99%)
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Butler Harriett Edith St. Olave 1d 532
Hill John William A St. Olave 1d 532
Ramsey Ernest David W A St. Olave 1d 532
Woods Annie Mary M St. Olave 1d 532

Ok Mike thank you.

Parents John William Aubrey Hill & Harrriett Edith Hill Nee Butler on the birth cert Harriett is only down as Edith Hill Living at 107 G Block Queens Buildings. This is the first wife of John William Aubrey Hill. Benjamin born Reg Dist St.Saviour Southwark, Sub Dist Borough Road. County of London.
Than you.

Name: Benjamin William Ernest Hill
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1899
Baptism Date: 10 Feb 1899
Father's Name: John William Aubrey Hill
Mother's Name: Edith Hill
Parish or Poor Law Union: St George the Martyr
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers



1911 is this him ?

HELMAN, John Head Married M 70 1841 Market Porter London S E VIEW
HELMAN, Harriett Wife Married
20 years F 53 1858 Household Duties Greenwich Kent VIEW
HELMAN, Dorothy Daughter Single F 16 1895 London Southwark VIEW
BUTLER, Alice Stepdaughter Single F 28 1883 Upholsterer Bermondsey London VIEW
HILL, Benjamin Grandson M 12 1899 London Southwark VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1797 Reference:
RG14PN1797 RG78PN64 RD23 SD4 ED5 SN166

Registration District:
Southwark Sub District:
Newington North Enumeration District:
5 Parish:
St Mary Newington

Address:
107 Union Road SE

Please give all the info from his birth certificate.

To find his cousin we need to know who his parents were