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Need to trace parish record information for John Bartingale, born 1803, in Kings L (assume Lynn) Regis Norfolk, died 1874 in Windsor.

We have found:

in 1825 first child born James, in Mary Le Bone London (baptism All Souls Church 7 Oct 1825) mother was Catherine.
The again in 1851 Census.

Any help appreciated.

Posted on behalf of Margaret Rozee by Phil Moir (GR) at WDYTYA

From Familysearch.org

Name: John Bartingale
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 22 Mar 1803
Baptism/Christening Place: Lynn, Norfolk, England
Father's Name: John Bartingale
Mother's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I07332-2
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1471537
Reference Number: Item 19 p 72

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about John Bartingale
Name: John Bartingale
Spouse Name: Jane Bowman
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 5 Apr 1830
Parish: St Andrew Holborn
Borough: City of London
Register Type: Parish Register

The censuses show him living with Jane?

The children born before 1830 have the mothers name as Catherine, after 1830 Jane is listed as the mother. Maybe the 1830 marriage was JOhns second?

County Norfolk
Place Kings Lynn
Church St Nicholas
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 22 Mar 1803
Forename John
Sex M
FatherForename John
MotherForename Martha
FatherSurname BARTINGALE

From Freereg

1861 England Census
Name: John Bartingale
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Bartingale
Gender: Male
Where born: Lyn Riges, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Staines
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Staines
Sub-registration district: Staines
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 37
Piece: 765
Folio: 54
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
John Bartingale 58
Jane Bartingale 57
John Bartingale 17

1871 England Census
Name: John Bricham Barlingall
[John Bricham Barlingale]
Age: 68
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Bartingale
Gender: Male
Where born: Norfolk, Buckinghamshire, England
[Lymm Regis, Norfolk, England]
Civil parish: Clewer
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Windsor
Sub-registration district: Windsor
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Household schedule number: 28
Piece: 1301
Folio: 91
Page Number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
John Bricham Barlingall 68
Jane Bartingale 67
Martha Sarah Bartingale 26
Emily Harriet Bartingale 7

Possible siblings?

Name: Mary Bartingale
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 17 May 1800
Baptism/Christening Place: Lynn, Norfolk, England
Father's Name: Johm Bartingale
Mother's Name: Martha Bartingale
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I07332-2
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1471537
Reference Number: Item 19 p 46


Name: Elisabeth Bartingale
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 02 Jan 1798
Baptism/Christening Place: Lynn, Norfolk, England
Father's Name: John Bartingale
Mother's Name: Martha Bartingale
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I07332-2
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1471537
Reference Number: Item 19 p 25


Name: Martha Bartingale
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 07 Nov 1805
Baptism/Christening Place: St. Margaret, Lynn, Norfolk, England
Father's Name: John Bartingale
Mother's Name: Martha
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I07426-5
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1471534
Reference Number: Item 17 p 161


Name: Samuel Bartingale
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 18 Nov 1814
Baptism/Christening Place: Little Plumstead, Norfolk, England
Father's Name: John Bartingale
Mother's Name: Martha Bartingale
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I07426-6
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1471534
Reference Number: 74


Name: Harriot Bartingale
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 19 Nov 1810
Baptism/Christening Place: Lynn, Norfolk, England
Father's Name: John Bartingale
Mother's Name: Martha
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I07678-2
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 1526838
Reference Number:


Name: William Bartingle
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 28 Dec 1796
Baptism/Christening Place: Lynn, Norfolk, England
Father's Name: John Bartingle
Mother's Name: Martha
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I07678-1
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1526838
Reference Number: item 2


Name: Sarah Bertingale
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 27 Jul 1808
Baptism/Christening Place: St. Margaret, Lynn, Norfolk, England
Father's Name: John Bertingale
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Martha
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I07426-5
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1471534
Reference Number: Item 17 p 179

1851 England Census
about James Bartingale
Name: James Bartingale
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Son
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Bartingale
Father's Name: John Bartingale
Mother's name: Jane Bartingale
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Stoke next Guildford
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Registration district: Guildford
Sub-registration district: Woking
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 292
Piece: 1594
Folio: 450
Page Number: 44
Household Members: Name Age
John Bartingale 48
Jane Bartingale 47
James Bartingale 25 <<<<<<<<<<Your James Im guessing
Mary Ann Bartingale 25
William Bartingale 13
Lydia Bartingale 17
Mary Ann Bartingale 11
Henery Bartingale 9
Murtha S Bartingale 7
Emily E Bartingale 5
John A Bartingale 3
James Jno Bartingale 5 Mo

County Norfolk
Place Kings Lynn
Church St Nicholas
RegisterNumber 495
MarriageDate 02 Feb 1822
GroomForename John
GroomSurname BARTINGALE
GroomAge
GroomParish
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode
BrideForename Catharine
BrideSurname BETTS
BrideAge
BrideParish
BrideCondition Spinster

Ties in with

in 1825 first child born James, in Mary Le Bone London (baptism All Souls Church 7 Oct 1825) mother was Catherine.

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1841

Name: Martha Bartingale
Age: 61
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1780
Gender: Female
Where born: Norfolk, England

Civil parish: St Margaret
Hundred: Kings Lynn
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Kings Lynn
Sub-registration district: Kings Lynn North
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 786
Book: 4
Folio: 9
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
Martha Hendrey 30
James Hendrey 12
William Hendrey 9
Eliza Hendrey 7
Martha Bartingale 61
Mary Graham 13
Martha Farmen 64


From this baptism / christening it looks like Martha Hendrey was the daughter of Martha Bartingale who was living with the family?

Name: James Bartingale Hendry
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 09 May 1829
Baptism/Christening Place: St. Margarets, Lynn, Norfolk, England
Father's Name: John Hendry
Mother's Name: Martha Hendry
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04680-7
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1471535
Reference Number: item 2 p 208

Name: James Bartingale
Mother: Catherine Bartingale
Father: John Bartingale
Birth: abt 1825 - Langham
Baptism: 7 Oct 1825 - Langham

Name: Mary Bartingale
Mother: Catherine Bartingale
Father: John Bartingale
Birth: abt 1828 - St Andrew Holborn
Baptism: 3 Mar 1828 - St Andrew Holborn


Name: Sarah Bartingale
Mother: Catherine Bartingale
Father: John Bartingale
Birth: abt 1828 - St Andrew Holborn
Baptism: 3 Mar 1828 - St Andrew Holborn


Name: William Bartingale
Mother: Jane Bartingale
Father: John Bartingale
Birth: abt 1832 - St Andrew Holborn
Baptism: 15 Apr 1832 - St Andrew Holborn


Name: Henry Barton ????
Mother: Mary Ann Barton
Father: John Barton <<<<<<<<<<<<Painter
Birth: abt 1839 - Limehouse St Anne
Baptism: 7 Apr 1839 - Limehouse St Anne


Name: Martha Sarah Bartingale
Mother: Jane Bartingale
Father: John Bartingale
Birth: abt 1844 - Stoke St John The Evangelist, Surrey
Baptism: 17 Nov 1844 - Stoke St John The Evangelist, Surrey


Name: Emily Eliza Bartingale
Mother: Jane Bartingale
Father: John Bartingale
Birth: abt 1847 - Stoke St John The Evangelist, Surrey
Baptism: 3 Jan 1847 - Stoke St John The Evangelist, Surrey

Name: John Alfred Burtingale
Mother: Jane Burtingale
Father: John Burtingale
Birth: abt 1848 - Stoke St John The Evangelist, Surrey
Baptism: 18 Jun 1848 - Stoke St John The Evangelist, Surrey

So Catherine died young:

Catherine Bartingdale
England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991

birth: 1795
burial: 28 Apr 1829 Holborn St.,? London,? Middlesex,? England

And John remarried:

John Bartingale

England Marriages, 1538–1973

marriage: 05 Apr 1830 St. Andrew'S,? Holborn,? Middlesex,? England

spouse: Jane Bowman

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about John James Bartingale
Name: John James Bartingale
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1851
Baptism Date: 23 Feb 1851
Father's Name: James Bartingale
Mother's name: Mary Ann Bartingale
Parish or Poor Law Union: Stoke St John the Evangelist
County: Surrey
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript

And on this baptism the mother has Mary Ann as her name! Same John as the occupation matches the other births....coach painter

Many many thanks for your response to this request.
Margaret has just been back and is amazed by the response and looking forward to getting home to investigate further.

You guys responding are amazing.


Phil

Thank you all so much for your help in my search for my ancestors.

My mother was Ivy Bartingale, born 1919 in Ramsgate Kent, second daughter of George Frederick Bartingale, so I now have a direct line back to John and Martha.

I will be pleased to hear from anyone who has a connection to this line.

Margaret

Hi Margaret

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