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please i am looking for dod for patrick kane b 1855 north sunderland in 1901 census in murton and john kane b 1857 north sunderland in 1891 census whitburn if you can narrow field it would be appreciated
thanks kane

I wonder if this was the brothers in 1871?

Name: Patrick Kane
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
[1855]
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Peter Kane
Mother's Name: Mary Kane
Gender: Male
Where born: Northd, Belford
Civil parish: Preston
Ecclesiastical parish: Percy
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: North Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 256
Piece: 5114
Folio: 88
Page Number: 48
Household Members:
Name Age
Peter Kane 38
Mary Kane 47
Patrick Kane 26
John Kane 14
James Kane 12 b Berwick
Jane E Kane 9
Peter Kane 6

yes this is the family, belford is the parish actual born n/sland

freebmd is the place to look - the age at death is on the index

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

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England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Patrick Kane
Name: Patrick Kane
Birth Date: abt 1855
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1921
Age at Death: 66
Registration district: Tynemouth
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 337

Is this John??

1911 census - household transcription
Person: KANE, John
Address: 2 Hill Top New York Village N/c


KANE, John Head Married M 54 1857 Coal Hewer North Sunderland Northumberland VIEW
KANE, Annie Wife Married
13 years F 49 1862 Sunderland Co Durham VIEW
KANE, Lizzie Ann Daughter Single F 22 1889 Ryhope Durham VIEW
KANE, Peter Son Single M 15 1896 Driver Down Miner South Shields Durham VIEW
KANE, Ellen Daughter F 12 1899 School South Shields Durham VIEW
KANE, Patrick Son M 10 1901 South Shields Durham VIEW
KANE, Rosey Daughter F 8 1903 Enw York Northumberland VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
30766 Reference:
RG14PN30766 RG78PN1758 RD559 SD2 ED34 SN44

Registration District:
Tynemouth Sub District:
Tynemouth Enumeration District:
34 Parish:
Tynemouth

Address:
2 Hill Top New York Village N/c County:
Northumberland
(5 children born and living)


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England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about John Kane
Name: John Kane
Birth Date: abt 1857
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1928
Age at Death: 71
Registration district: Tynemouth
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 350

North Sunderland is next to Seahouses on Northumberland coast (not really that near Sunderland Wearside)

Bates Cottages is now in Seaton Delaval Northumberland


1911 census - household transcription

Person: CAIN, Pat

Address: 4 Murton Village

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

CAIN, Pat Head Married M 56 1855 Underground Labr In Coal Mine Nth Sunderland Nthlnd
CAIN, Margaret Wife Married 27 years F 51 1860 Belleston Scotland Resident
CAIN, Elizbth Dtr Adopted Single F 15 1896 Bates Cottge Nthlnd

That one ties in with the 1901.............Margaret born in Scotland!

Will delete mine.

Dippy me took "actually born n/sland" to mean Northern Ireland!! :-S

1901 census - household transcription

Address: Murton, Murton, Murton & New York

KANE, Patrick Head Married M 46 1855 Coal Miner North Sunderland Northumberland
KANE, Margaret Wife Married F 40 1861 Lanarkshire Scotland
KANE, Elizabeth Niece Single F 5 1896 East Holywell Northumberland

Thats it!!

possibly related to this lot??

Bates Cottages "joins up" Holywell and Seaton Delaval

1891 census - household transcription

Address: 15, Middle Row, Holywell, Bates Cottages

KANE, James Head Married M 32 1859 Coal Miner Berwick Northumberland
KANE, Elizabeth Wife Married F 33 1858 Bedlington Northumberland
KANE, Margaret Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar Benton Northumberland
KANE, James Son M 7 1884 Scholar Earsdon Northumberland
KANE, Peter Son M 5 1886 Scholar Earsdon Northumberland
KANE, Mary J Daughter F 0 (9M) 1891 Earsdon Northumberland

I must admit that this is the only birth I can see for the children's births pre 1861. I wonder if the others were registered.

Births Mar 1859 (>99%)

KANE James Berwick 10b 290

Kane...
What has happened to all the info. from your previous threads....?
Is this the the same branch of the family or is this another one...

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1264795...

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1293232 (Feb 24th)

Got no idea why this member has opened their tree to me

thanks to all, yes its what im looking for,cleared old threads to start afresh maybe not good idea, all the info is correct with a few new points ie adoption
still looking for irish connection for peter 1834 and mary 1832 kane/cain/nee wallace/wallis (10 yrs age discretancy)seems kane family connected to earsdon area in northumberland and mostly miners
again thanks to all you are a great bunch :-) :-)

ideas welcomed , looking for info for sister mary laurence (ellen kelly) headmistress minories school jesmond newcasle1953? of domician sisters
brothers may have lived in backworth northumberland , cousin of peter kane 1865
maria kelly witness at peters wedding 1891 to mary ann dorrian south shields st bedes
hoping
thanks

Kane.....
You are asking about Sister Mary Lawrence (Dominicans)..Minories School Jesmond....

I am not aware of a "Minories School" Jesmond...however there was Nazareth House Sandyford Rd (area known locally as the Minories)..but that was run by the Sisters of Nazareth and was a Childrens Home.....

Will have another search around....As far as I am aware the Dominican Sisters weren't attached to St Dominics Church as such..........St Dominics (for ref) is just over Byker Bridge going into Ncle.
Were did you find "Minories School" situated before it was sold....?

Kane - La Sagesse has only very recently been sold.

The chap you met couldn't have gone there as it was girls only.

I was baptised at St Dominics and I'm pretty sure there were no nuns associated.

I was a convent girl myself in the area and am struggling to think what school it could be .....

I think (but not 100% sure) that the building you're referring to is now the Leonard Cheshire home. My OH does think there may have been a boys school there about 50 to 60 years ago.

sorry im incorrect
you never know lol