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kane

kane Report 25 Mar 2012 17:17

sorry confused
thanks

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 25 Mar 2012 17:19

Kane, just to clarify - are you now saying that Sr Mary Laurence (Ellen Kelly) was the headmistress of La Sagesse? That she wasn't a Dominican nun and wasn't at the Minories School?

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 25 Mar 2012 17:38

I think thats what he may be saying...!!
One of my older sisters went to La Sagesse and she recalls they were the Sisters of Marie Reparatrice who taught her ...says she doesn't remember knowing them by " Sisters of La Sagesse"...

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 25 Mar 2012 17:50

I do know that the Daughters of Wisdom (translation of La Sagesse) owned the building that the school was in and had done so since about 1912 (there was a lot in the papers a couple years ago when they sold it - they got quite a slating, actually) but I dare say there could have been other orders taught there. I do recall the people who ran the school were outraged at the rents the Daughters of Wisdom were charging.

I'm still mystified by Kane's comment that he met a chap who went to the school where Sister Mary Laurence was. La Sagesse was most definitely an all girls school until 2007 when they allowed a few boys in (probably to boost their finances).

I'm now told that there was a Dominican boys prep school in the 1950s on the site of what was the Minories .....

kane

kane Report 25 Mar 2012 19:17

i have a photo and prayer book written in the prayer book sr mary laurence 1924 and looks like osd after name also cousin ellen kelly of peter kane b 1865 , my sister saw her in 1953? headmistress of school minories jesmond photo id dominician clothes
gentleman from ndfs met at show in n/castle last year running ndfs stall
(retired)
hope this will help
thanks




MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 25 Mar 2012 19:25

Kane - so where does La Sagesse come into it? - that wasn't at the Minories

kane

kane Report 25 Mar 2012 20:11

sorry was confused thought both were same ;-)
its definetly, the minories, sister mary laurence headmistress, dominician order, boys up to 11yrs ? boy called john riddley there in 1954 age 10yrs ? also family connection

kane

kane Report 17 May 2012 09:58

dominician sisters had school at the minories jesmond 1953? boys upto 11yrs head sister mary laurence (ellen kelly). relative john ridley was at this school at this time. mary kane -(my sister) visited about this time
(some confusion with other girls catholic school )
looking for info on sister mary laurence
thanks

kane

kane Report 29 Dec 2012 13:55

history re sister laurence
see www.stcatherines.newcastle.sch.uk
im still searching details
thanks
slowly the plan comes together
kane :-)

kane

kane Report 29 Dec 2012 15:33

st dominics became st catherines school

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 29 Dec 2012 15:42

I was actually christened in St Dominic's church so know the parish quite well.

This is how the school of St Dominics joined St Catherines:

"In the late nineteenth century our parish church, St Dominic's, opened a school next door to the church; it was called St Dominic's Primary School.

Meanwhile in Jesmond there was an order of Dominican Sisters who lived in a place known as The Minories near the Cradlewell. There was a convent and a small preparatory school for boys. In the late 1960's the city council planned to build a big new road and the Sisters had to move so they were given a new site. St Catherine's Convent and a new prep school for boys was built in the early 1970's.

Over in Shieldfield, St Dominic's Primary School's building was now quite old and in a poor state, while at St Catherine's there weren't many pupils in a brand new building. It was decided to move all the pupils and staff from St Dominics to St Catherine's school. The Sisters made a condition, that St Dominic's Primary take on the new name of St Catherine's."

So why don't you email St Catherine's and ask their advice?
Or contact St Dominics http://stdominicspriorynewcastle.wordpress.com/

I can't think of any other assistance to offer you.

kane

kane Report 30 Dec 2012 01:00

thanks for the info, am following advice, hope for a further link in the chain, may break into the irish connection yet..
well wishes for the season of goodwill
kane

kane

kane Report 30 Dec 2012 01:15

also looking for birth cert for patrick kane (in latin-patri? cain) born seahouses - north sunderland 1855. tried glendale 1859 sent for cert no luck
brother jonnis (john) reg at belford 1857 have cert, also marraige cert for petri cain - mariae wallace - parents?
any help appreciated
thanks

K

K Report 30 Dec 2012 05:22

I can see no registration for Patrick. It was not compulsary until 1974, however they don't appear to have christened him either unlike their other children or ar least it is mot on Family Search

kane

kane Report 30 Dec 2012 15:46

strange? john 1857 belford, james 1859 berwick etc all recorded
trying gro for 1859 in glendale (wonder if date mistake)

note sister laurence - school st dominics now st catherines
www.stcatherines.newcastle.sch.uk
cheers
kane

kane

kane Report 8 Jan 2013 20:08

sister mary laurence (ellen kelly) born 11/9/1881 long benton , baptised st aidans
willington quay 9/10/1881, died newcastle 2/5/1964
father john kelly mother kathleen kelly nee kane
any info greatly appriciated
kane thanks

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 8 Jan 2013 22:05

Is this is the family 1881.....

address: Benton Square
census place: Longbenton, Northumberland, England
disability:
record type: Household
family history library film: 1342228
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 5086 / 59
page number: 2
Household Gender Age Birthplace
head John Kelly M 42 Ireland
wife Catherine Kelly F 38 Ireland
son Peter Kelly M 16 Long Benton,
daughter Rose Kelly F 11 Howden,
daughter Maria Kelly F 9 Howden,
son Roger Kelly M 7 Longbenton,
son John Kelly M 5 Longbenton,
son Thomas Kelly M 2 Longbenton,

kane

kane Report 8 Jan 2013 22:53

yes thanks catherine kane rossmore leitrim/longford ire


may have the connection i am looking for , looking good
many thanks :-D

kane

kane Report 13 Jan 2013 18:44

peter kelly baptism st aidans catholic church?, where is the best place to look as i am not familiar with catholic records
thanks for any help
kane ;-)

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 13 Jan 2013 19:03

I am not sure that St Aidans Records are to be found on line but they are held at Tyne and Wear Archives Blandford St Ncle.

What info are you looking for from the Baptism Cert...?