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Have found what appears to be Marriage of Joseph (above) and Hannah WEATHERSPOON...

Isabella b 1843 is down as Elizabeth Isabella on Birth Entry....!!

spouse: Hannah Weatherspoon


groom's name: Joseph Ferry
groom's birth date: 1795
groom's age: 24
bride's name: Hannah Weatherspoon
bride's birth date: 1798
bride's age: 21
marriage date: 26 Dec 1819
marriage place: Chester Le Street,Durham,England

Have looked for any other children before those listed on Census...
Baptisms : Hannah Ferry 3 June 1821***(possibly died see below)
Robert Ferry 17 August 1823
Hannah Ferry 1 October 1826

I think you are right about Isabella....
Thanks for "Jane"....wonder who in the name of the Wee Man is Henrietta (1881)

I think this is Joseph in 1851, before his marriage. Might his younger sister be the other Isabella Ferry in the articles?

FERRY, Joseph Head Married M 54 1797 Stone Mason Witton Gilbert Durham
FERRY, Hannah Wife Married F 51 1800 Brecon Hill Cumberland
FERRY, Joseph Son Unmarried M 20 1831 Coal Miner Pelton Durham <<
FERRY, John Son M 17 1834 Coal Miner Pelton Durham
FERRY, George Son M 14 1837 Pelton Durham
FERRY, Matthew Son M 10 1841 Pelton Durham
FERRY, Isabella Daughter F 8 1843 Pelton Durham

Registration District: Chester Le Street

Address: Howlet Hall County: Durham

I think Jane IS Rebecca's sister (or at least half-sister) as she's with Jospeh and Isabella in 1861:

FERRY, Joseph Head Married M 31 1830 Coal Miner Pelton Durham
FERRY, Isabella Wife Married F 29 1832 Fatfield Durham
FERRY, Jane Daughter F 9 1852 Fatfield Durham
FERRY, Hannah Daughter F 3 1858 Fatfield Durham
FERRY, George Son M 0 (8M) 1861 Fatfield Durham

Registration District: Chester-Le-Street
Civil Parish: Chester Le Street Harraton

Address: Long Row, Chester Le Street Harraton County: Durham

(I've posted her above in 1871)

Here's one of my (possibly half-baked!!) theories. What if Jane was actually the true mother of Rebecca? (She was technically old enough). The place of Pennsylvania seems to be known to the families - could it be a cover up for illegitimacy?

Marie Celeste.
Thought it was me getting totally bamboozled..!!

Rebeccca F. is living with Jonathan and Henrietta (1881) but Jane has her living at some stage with "Jane" her ? sister...

I am not convinced that Jane is a sister...Joseph and Isabella married 1854...Jane has a rough date of birth for "Jane" 1850/51..that would make Isabella abt 15/16yrs when Jane was born ...then to wait 4 years to marry Joseph...something's not right here....

I think this is Rebecca's sister Jane in 1871:


BLAKECLOCK, John Head M 25 1846 County Durham, miner born Leamside
BLAKECLOCK, Jane Wife F 20 1851 County Durham, b Fatfield

Registration District: Houghton Le Spring
Civil Parish: West Rainton

Address: Rainton Gate Houses, West Rainton County: Durham

Erin, well spotted about the Jane/Henrietta difference.

I'm wondering if this is the marriage of the Jonathan and Henrietta that Rebecca is with in 1881:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1875
Blacklock Jonathan Houghton 10a 675 <<<
DODDS Hannah Houghton 10a 675
GOWLAND Henrietta Houghton 10a 675 <<<
HELLAN Henry Houghton 10a 675
HILLAM Henry Houghton 10a 675

More info:

groom's name: Jonathan Blacklock
groom's birth date: 1854
groom's birthplace:
groom's age: 21
bride's name: Henrietta Gowland
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 15 Sep 1875
marriage place: West Rainton, Durham, England
groom's father's name: Jonathan Blacklock
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: Henry Gowland
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status: Single
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status: Single
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M01290-2
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1514524
reference number: 225

This looks like the William Ridley that is with the Bainbridges on the 1880 census:

Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1800-1945
Name: Wm Ridley
Arrival Date: 21 Feb 1880
Age: 25 Years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Illinois
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Microfilm Roll Number: M425_99

He is a puddler and arrives with Jane (19), Thomas and Robert (infants).

Hi,
Yes when I first started afew years ago looking at my Ledger / Ferry side of the
family a researcher from back home in Durham I live in Essex now said he could'nt find a birth for Jane Ferry so I did'nt get a certificate and I wondered if
maybe she was born before the marriage I don't have marriage lines but as you
say Jane's birth is before the marriage date. I did look at a census the other day and printed a copy off not sure where I have placed it but Jane was on as Ferry with the rest of the family I felt utter relief as after finding out about my g
gran Rebecca Ferry being an orphan at 14 and in with a family I could not connect to my family but then I saw Jane married to one of the Blacklock brothers and felt better. 2 of Rebecca's brother's were with one Blacklock brother and Rebecca with the other, I new there had to be a close family connection some where because my dad's middle name in Marshall and it is not
in our family untill I checked the Blacklock family out and the name is in there
family, so looks like my dad was given there name out of I would hope to think
love and respect at looking after the 3 of them after there mam and dad died.
My dad spent allot of time with my g gran Rebecca so he told me.
I have ordered to cope of Rebecca's baptism and will let you know what info is on it when it comes. Will have a look through my paper work and see if there is
any more help I would like to have but everyone who has helped me so far has been really kind. The other thing that has made me wonder is Isabella Ledger my gg gran have a child named Isabella before maybe she married or when census were taken Isabella was not with her and Joseph, I suppose the Isabella
Ferry in the Newspaper Articles could habe been another family member just
could'nt get a connection with paper work I have. I feel on the baptism there won't be an actual plave other then maybe America but you never know. I did look at the info you gave me MarieCeleste and there is already an older member of the Ledger family married to a Ridley so I was trying to see what relation that Ridley was to the one mentioned in the American census, needless
to say did'nt get there.
Thanks so much.
Jane.

Jane...
Have you noticed that the year of Birth for "Jane Ferry" you have as 1850/51 which is puzzling as Joseph and Isabella (aged 20yrs) married 1854 also 1881 census shows Rebecca Ferry aged 14 living with Jonathan and "Henrietta" Blacklock....

Jane, I'm not sure if the baptism will give the exact birthplace, but it's worth looking into. Do let us know what it says.

Looks like the law about registering births was the same in the US as it was here.

Do let us know if you've any gaps anywhere in your info. Quite a few of us have Ancestry worldwide and are happy to look things up (or at least try!).

Hi
I have requested copy of Rebecca's baptism from County Durham Records
Office to day. No luck trying to findout about her birth in PA, had a reply back
from the History Society and they said that they did'nt need to register births
as far back as that and the Parish records are not handed over, so hoping to
find out more when I get a copy of the baptism on the exact place she was born
in PA, keeping my fingers crossed. MarieCeleste going to have a look at info
you sent me tonight.
Thanks
Kind regards
Jane.

Hello
Thanks for the information its a big help the wrong spelling of Ferrey is misleading but I do have Joseph and Isabella's death certificates which
has the correct Surname.
KInd regards
Jane.

Joseph and Isabella's marriage....

spouse: Joseph Ferrey


groom's name: Joseph Ferrey
groom's birth date: 1829
groom's age: 25
bride's name: Isabella Ledger
bride's birth date: 1832
bride's age: 22
marriage date: 22 Oct 1854
marriage place: Chester-Le-Street, Durham, England
groom's father's name: Joseph Ferrey
bride's father's name: George Ledger
groom's marital status: Single
bride's marital status: Single

Hi MarieCeleste,
I have just printed all your information off to have a good look at as off to the dentist, looks very interesting. I got in touch with a friend yesterday who lives in County Durham and he said the church for my g gran Rebecca would be St Mary in West Rainton, and if I ring the Durham Archives a call should be able
to request a copy of her bapism, so going to do that. I also sent a message to
a Layette, PA, Historical Society to see if they could help me with a possible central records office where I could write and ask about a birth for my g gran
no answer as of yet. Will let you know if I get any where.
Thanks again for helping me.
Kind regards
Jane.

Given where the rest of the family were living, I think this may well be William in 1880 (I'm guessing the L may stand for Ledger?). The oldest daughter's name is also a clue.

1880 United States Federal Census
Name: William L. Bainbridge
Age: 31
Birth Year: abt 1849
Birthplace: England
Home in 1880: Uniontown, Fayette, Pennsylvania
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Margaret Bainbridge
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Mining
Cannot read/write:
Blind:
Deaf and dumb:
Otherwise disabled:
Idiotic or insane:

Household Members:
Name Age
William L. Bainbridge 31 < Mining
Margaret Bainbridge 30
Dorothy Bainbridge 6
Alise Bainbridge 3
Jane Bainbridge 4m

All born England apart from the youngest two.

Regarding the shipping record that is possibly Joseph in 1869, the passengers names next to Joseph's are Wm Bainbridge age 20 (ties in with the 1861 census - he may have gone over a few months before the rest of the family) and John Foster age 25 (not 20).

I think the Bainbridges may get a bit confused with dates! Here in 1900 Robert is stated as born 1828 when other records show 1825/6. Also it's showing their year of immigration as 1881, when we can see their arrival in 1869 (unless they went back to England and then came back again, but can't see any other records). This census also says Dora (Dorothy in 1880) was born England, when in fact the 1880 census shows her as born Pennsylvania.

1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Robert Bainbridge
Age: 71
Birth Date: Aug 1828
Birthplace: England
Home in 1900: North Union, Fayette, Pennsylvania [Fayette]
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1881
Relation to Head of House: Father-in-law [Boarder]
Marital Status: Widowed
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Occupation:e
Neighbors:

Household Members:
Name Age
William Ridley 42
Jane Ridley 39
Thomas Ridley 23
Robert Ridley 21
Dora Ridley 20
Elizabeth Ridley 18
William Ridley 16
George Ridley 12
Joseph Ridley 16
Margaret Ridley 6
Robert Bainbridge 71

And this is them in US in 1880:

1880 United States Federal Census
Name: Dorothy Bainbridge
Age: 52
Birth Year: abt 1828
Birthplace: England
Home in 1880: Uniontown, Fayette, Pennsylvania
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Robert Bainbridge
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Keeping House
Cannot read/write:
Blind:
Deaf and dumb:
Otherwise disabled:
Idiotic or insane:

Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Bainbridge 52 , mining
Dorothy Bainbridge 52
Richard Bainbridge 20 son, mining
Jennie Ridley 18 daughter
Matthew Bainbridge 17 son, mining
William Ridley 24 son-in-law, banksman
Thomas Ridley 3 grandson
Robert Ridley 1 grandson
Dorothy Ridley 1m (born May) granddaughter
William Dixon 32 boarder

Everyone was born England, except little Dorothy who was born Penn.

That would be this family in 1861:


BAINBRIDGE, Rob Head Married M 36 1825 Coal Miner Hetton Le Hole Durham
BAINBRIDGE, Dorothy Wife Married F 35 1826 Charterhough Durham
BAINBRIDGE, William Son Unmarried M 12 1849 Wingate Durham
BAINBRIDGE, George Son M 7 1854 At School Edmondsley Durham
BAINBRIDGE, Joseph Son M 5 1856 At School Charterhough Durham
BAINBRIDGE, Robert Son M 4 1857 At School Charterhough Durham
BAINBRIDGE, Richard Son M 1 1860 Charterhough Durham
BAINBRIDGE, Jane Daughter F 0 (1M) 1861 Fatfield Durham

Registration District: Chester-Le-Street
Civil Parish: Harraton

Address: Long Row, Harraton County: Durham

(Or is this not your family?)

If this is the right family, then it looks like Dorothy and Bob may have moved to US after most of the children were born:

Boston Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1943
Name: Dorothy Bainbridge
Arrival Date: 30 Aug 1869
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Queenstown, Ireland and Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Tripoli
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts

With her were Robert 43 (Labourer), George 11, Joseph 10, Robert 8, Richard 6, Jane 4 and Matthew 3.

So that would mean that this family travelled to US after Rebecca was born so it seems unlikely that Isabella was visiting them when she gave birth.