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Mary

Mary Report 14 Jul 2012 12:23


Who were the witnesses to the Vest/Perry marriage and was Sidneys dad down as Albert Ernest Perry.
What was address for Sidney?

Thankyou Maryb.

Flip

Flip Report 14 Jul 2012 08:26

1911 census has Richard Henry Pearse married 7 years to Elizabeth Jane, living Willington, Durham. So I think that leaves Thomas Vest married to Elizabeth Walker.

The census posted by Vera looks like the right one, that couple had been married 7 years but it states 4 children all alive - so not sure where the missing one is.

Edit: the missing child is Bertha, born 1903 and with her grandparents on the 1911 census:

Bertha West
Age in 1911: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1904
Relation to Head: Grandchild
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Newfield, Durham, England
Civil parish: Newfield Binchester
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address: 8 Bridge St Newfield Willington
Occupation: School
Registration district: Auckland
Registration District Number: 547
Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Piece: 29736
Household Members: Name Age
Thos Walker 64
Mary Ann Walker 64
Miles Walker 30
Bertha West 7

Vera2010

Vera2010 Report 14 Jul 2012 03:38

There are two Thomas Vests in the Durham area working as miners. One married to Elizabeth and the other to Annie .

There is a birth for a Catherine in Durham with mothers maiden name Walker

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Catherine Vest Name: Catherine Vest
Mother's Maiden Name: Walker
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1915
Registration district: Durham
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 959 (click to see others on page)

The Thomas married to Elizabeth is a miner

1911 England Census
about Thomas Vest Name: Thomas Vest
Age in 1911: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Wylam, Northumberland, England
Civil parish: Shadforth
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address: Shadforth Villiage Co Durham
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Coal Miner
Registration district: Durham
Registration District Number: 551
Sub-registration district: Durham
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Piece: 29984
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Vest 32
Elizabeth Vest 27
Mary Ann Vest 6
Jennie Vest 3
Robert Vest 1

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Thomas Vest Name: Thomas Vest
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1903
Registration district: Durham
Inferred County: Durham
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 656 (click to see others on page)

Thomas could have married either one of these Elizabeth's

Elizabeth Jane Farrow Jul-Aug-Sep 1903 Durham Durham
Richard Henry Pearse Jul-Aug-Sep 1903 Durham Durham
Thomas Vest Jul-Aug-Sep 1903 Durham Durham
Elizabeth Walker Jul-Aug-Sep 1903 Durham Durham

Vera








Margaret Rose

Margaret Rose Report 13 Jul 2012 23:20

catherines fathers name was thomas william vest he was a miner and i think they originally came from durham, catherine was 21 at the time of marriage and her residence at time of marriage was the hospital,Rye street,Bishops stortford. i also recieved a copy of my fathers death cert sidney charles perry died 1st march 1979 at herts essex hhosp bishops stortford his last know address was 193 jeround harlow essex. death was registerd by his brother walter henry perry at 36 scott road bishops stortford.

Flip

Flip Report 13 Jul 2012 08:16

Hi, did your parents marriage certificate turn up? Could you post the details of Catherine's father - name, occupation whether deceased. It may help in tracking the right birth for her to see if she had any siblings - and what age was she when she married. Also, could the witness names give any further clues?

Margaret Rose

Margaret Rose Report 11 Jul 2012 22:29

Unfortunatley ive found no matches so far and havnt recieved many replies to my messages. totally stumped now :-|

Margaret Rose

Margaret Rose Report 25 Jun 2012 20:52

I havnt as yet, ive searched the trees for the names that you gave to me and have sent many messages, just want to see if iget any replys and matches from those first, thankyou once again

Flip

Flip Report 25 Jun 2012 15:54

Have you managed to find the later children from freebmd? - the info I posted was from the 1911 census.

Margaret Rose

Margaret Rose Report 25 Jun 2012 15:03

thankyou so much its amazing how you found all this information.

Flip

Flip Report 25 Jun 2012 06:00

1911 for info - not sure if you already have this, but it could be worth searching trees for some of the other siblings.

Minnie Violet Perry
Age in 1911: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Walthamstow, Essex
Civil parish: Takeley
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street Address: Mill End, Takeley S O, Essex
Registration district: Dunmow
Registration District Number: 202
Sub-registration district: Thaxted
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 8
Piece: 10465
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Ernest Perry 35
Minnie Louise Perry 35
George Frank Perry 10
Minnie Violet Perry 8
Albert William Perry 7
Frederick Arthur Perry 5
Ernest Edward Perry 4
Leonard Victor Perry 3
Walter Henry Perry 2
Annie Louise Perry 1

There were 5 more born after this, the last one in 1921.

Margaret Rose

Margaret Rose Report 24 Jun 2012 23:17

Thankyou very much for youre help i will contact the post adoption team i presume i have to contact bishops stortford for that, also i have sent a message to someone who had blanche perry in their tree but was unsuccesful i presume they are no longer on genes reunited.
thankyou once again

Flip

Flip Report 23 Jun 2012 12:09

Did you ever order your parents marriage certificate to confirm their ages and father's names? There doesn't appear to be many Catherine's born in the right time frame, the most likely is in Durham 1914.

If the death posted earlier in the thread for Sidney Charles is right, then I think he was 1 of 14 children born between 1901 and 1921. It could be worth trying to find some of them in search trees - their children may know more about the circumstances. A tree on Ancestry has one of the sisters - Blanch Selina born in 1915 who died fairly recently.

Peter

Peter Report 23 Jun 2012 09:58

Have you approached the Social Services Post Adoption Team in Essex, probably at Chelmsford, and ask permission to place a letter on your siblings files? They might have left a letter there for you
Good luck,
Peter

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 21 Jun 2012 00:43

Also here:

http://www.genesreunited.co.za/boards.page/board/living_relatives/thread/1302520?jump=1302520

Rose

Margaret Rose

Margaret Rose Report 20 Jun 2012 18:17

unfortunatley i still seem to have no leads as yet on either robert,david,brenda or patricia and there may have possibly been another birth after patricia. does anyone have any ideas on what my next step should be please xx

 Sue In Leeds

Sue In Leeds Report 21 May 2012 21:24

Margaret,
I wrote to both of my half sisters son's(my nephews)as they only live 5 miles from me.but as I said they haven't wrote back..
Must be because their mother gave them a tale that wasn't a 100% right.

But as I said it's their loss as they have a big family from me.

Also wrote to eldest half sister's daughter(niece)in OZ but same thing happened.

Sad that they don't want to know but nothing I can do about it.

Sue xxx

Margaret Rose

Margaret Rose Report 21 May 2012 20:45

Hi sue, i know ime being a bit inpatient . its so strange that i have had all these years to look but have only decided to do it now , ime so sorry that you havnt recieved replys also .

regards margaret x

 Sue In Leeds

Sue In Leeds Report 21 May 2012 20:29

Margaret Rose.

It's only been about 5/6 days..you have togive them the chance to sit and read the letter and digest it al..Sorry that may sound awful.But I waited around 3/4 months before I said those words.

I wrote again after 5 months but I still haven't heard anything,but it's their loss not mine.

Hugs
Sue

Margaret Rose

Margaret Rose Report 21 May 2012 19:51

still no joy , have sent a few letters now but sadly have had no replies :-(

 Sue In Leeds

Sue In Leeds Report 15 May 2012 11:50

Good Luck Margaret Rose..

Sue