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Alfred Stephen Barrett

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Chris

Chris Report 6 May 2012 17:28

Alfred was in the 7th Hussars.

Does anyone have access to army marriages as I believe he married in India around 1894.

On the 1901 census she is named as Catherine Charlotte, I need to find her surname.

Many thanks

Chris

Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend

Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend Report 6 May 2012 17:36

From FMP

MarriageFinderâ„¢: Alfred Stephen Barrett married Catherine Charlotte Cole [?]

Name: BARRETT, Alfred Stephen

Place : Mhow

Country: Indian Subcontinent

Year: 1894

Page: 203

Spouse's last name: Not available before 1911 for GRO Index Army Marriages (1881 to 1955)

Record source: GRO Index Army Marriages (1881 to 1955)
View the original image for the spouse

Name: COLE, Catherine Charlotte

County: Indian Subcontinent

Year: 1894

Page 203

Spouse's last name Not available before 1911 for GRO Index Army Marriages (1881 to 1955)

Record source: GRO Index Army Marriages (1881 to 1955)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 May 2012 17:36

Hi Chris, if they had any children then their birth cert would give her maiden name.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 6 May 2012 17:36

This looks like the marriage:-

Name: BARRETT, Alfred Stephen
Place: Mhow
Country: Indian Subcontinent
Year: 1894
Page: 203
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1911 for GRO Index Army Marriages (1881 to 1955)
Record source: GRO Index Army Marriages (1881 to 1955)

Name: COLE, Catherine Charlotte
County: Indian Subcontinent
Year: 1894
Page 203
Spouse's last name Not available before 1911 for GRO Index Army Marriages (1881 to 1955)
Record source: GRO Index Army Marriages (1881 to 1955)

Kath. x

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 May 2012 17:37

Bit more info, showing her father:

"India, Marriages, 1792-1948" Alfred Stephen Barrett, 1894

groom's name: Alfred Stephen Barrett
groom's birth date: 1867
groom's birthplace:
groom's age: 27
bride's name: Catherine Charlotte Cole
bride's birth date: 1872
bride's birthplace:
bride's age: 22
marriage date: 02 Oct 1894
marriage place: Mhow, Bengal, India
groom's father's name: Stephen Barrett
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: Thomas Cole
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status: Single
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status: Single
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M39358-7
system origin: India-EASy
source film number: 512351
reference number:

Source Citation
"India, Marriages, 1792-1948 ," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGJR-899 : accessed 6 May 2012), Alfred Stephen Barrett, 1894.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 May 2012 17:41

Looks like her baptism:

name: Catherine Charlotte Cole
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 07 Aug 1872
baptism/christening place: Trimulgherry, Madras, India
birth date: 15 Jul 1872
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Thomas Cole
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Rebecca
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C00069-7
system origin: India-EASy
source film number: 521860
reference number:

Source Citation
"India, Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGH7-9H3 : accessed 6 May 2012), Catherine Charlotte Cole, 1872.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 May 2012 17:43

Hello Chris, Family Search https://familysearch.org is sometimes useful for Indian records.

Alfred's service records (which were exemplary) are on FMP. They contain a copy of his death certificate in 1948. Let me know if you want a copy.

Chris

Chris Report 6 May 2012 18:17

Hi Lesley, MarieCeleste & Kathleen,

Many many thanks for all the information.Far more than I expected so very grateful.

What has thrown me is Alfred's father's name, Stephen, should be Henry.

Back to the drawing board me thinks.

Thanks again.

Chris

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 6 May 2012 18:26

I would have thought that as Alfred's middle name is Stephen then it is much more likely that he was named after his father.......therefore Stephen rather than Henry would be more likely correct for his father.

Kath. x

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 May 2012 18:27

Chris - have you checked your message inbox? I've sent military record.

Are you now saying that the Alfred Stephen Barrett in the census is the wrong one, or do you have the wrong father?

If you let us know what you're working from we can try to help.

Chris

Chris Report 6 May 2012 18:39

Hi Marie,

It looks as if I have the wrong Alfred.

Father is Henry Barrett born 1925 in Woolhampton, my gt grandfather.

Got your message but no attachment.

Chris

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 May 2012 18:42

Hi Chris, I've sent you another message. I think there's an individual file size limit of 3mb and the file may well have exceeded that.

However, it looks as though the file is probably irrelevant if it was the wrong person.

So did you believe Alfred Stephen was the brother of your grandfather? Who was your grandfather so we can get on the right track?

Chris

Chris Report 6 May 2012 18:49

Hi Marie,

Grandfather was Robert Henry Barrett 30/01/1873 - 02/12/1947

Born in Croydon, died in Fulham.

Chris

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 May 2012 18:55

Just so we know where we're coming from, is this the family in 1881?


BARRETT, Henry Head Married M 49 1832 Coachman Berkshire
BARRETT, James H Son Single M 18 1863 Apprentice Shoemaker Deaf & Dumb Brixton Surrey
BARRETT, William Son Single M 16 1865 Milkboy Brixton Surrey
BARRETT, Alfred Son Single M 14 1867 Scholar Brixton Surrey
BARRETT, Walter Son Single M 12 1869 Scholar Mitcham Surrey
BARRETT, Robert Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar Croydon
Surrey

Registration District: Croydon
Civil Parish: Croydon

Address: 6, Alma Place, Croydon County: Surrey

Chris

Chris Report 6 May 2012 18:56

Correct

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 May 2012 19:17

So Alfred's the one you're tracing - don't suppose you know his date of birth?

There are numerous records for that name in England and overseas, would help narrow them down.

Chris

Chris Report 6 May 2012 20:03

Exact date no, only the year,1868, gleaned this from 71 & 81 census.

I was always told his second name was Stephen/Steven but this may not be correct.

Chris