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JAMES JUKES c1881

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Brenda

Brenda Report 22 May 2012 22:49

I'm looking for any information on my gt grandfather, James Jukes. Born Middlesbrough but living in Hartlepool early 1900s. He may have jumped ship some time after 1913, leaving my gt, grandmother with 6 children to raise. Any info would be gratefully received.

Brenda

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 May 2012 22:54

Hi Brenda, when you say he "jumped ship" was he actually in the Navy or do you just mean he ran out on her?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 May 2012 22:57

This is the closest I can find in 1911 (age for James is 44, b 1867 on original):

JUKES, James Head Married M 24 1887 Telephone Wire Man Middlesbor Yorks
JUKES, Mary Jane Wife Married 25 years F 43 1868 Middlesbor Yorks
JUKES, John Son Single M 23 1888 Waiter In Gentleman Farm Middlesbor Yorks
JUKES, Tomas Son Single M 21 1890 Waiter In Gentleman Farm Middlesbor Yorks

RG number: RG14 Piece: 29323 Reference: RG14PN29323 RG78PN1697 RD535 SD4 ED13 SN53

Registration District: Middlesbrough
Sub District: Thornaby
Enumeration District: 13
Parish: Stainton

Address: Stainton Stockton on Tees County: Yorkshire (North riding)

Three children born and still alive. There is a daughter Elizabeth age 25 entered on the original and then crossed out - must have been elsewhere.

** If this isn't the right record could you let us know which one is? Who were his wife and children.

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 22 May 2012 22:57

Roughly when was he born?

Or - you have your gt gm's name so we can start off by looking at the census.

That way we might be able to find possible deaths for him and maybe there will be clues to fill in the missing years.

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 22 May 2012 23:01

This is the only James I can find in that area

Births Mar 1881 (>99%)
JUKES James Middlesbro' 9d 555

Barry

Barry Report 22 May 2012 23:19

death record :

James Jukes Q2 1932 aged 65 ref 9d 594 Middlesbrough

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 22 May 2012 23:24

That one would match the James that MarieCeleste found on 1911.

We need Brenda to come back and tell us his wife's name. If it matches that family, we have a mystery.

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 22 May 2012 23:26

Hi Brenda,

Looks like you hit the wrong buttons sent a reply to me by pm instead of posting it on here. So I've posted it for you.

When you post to the thread you use the reply box at the bottom of the page and press submit.

Jill

11:11 PM
He married Alice Grasby c1905. Their last child was born c1913 and he disappeared after that. Shipping company he had been working for told my gt grandmother they had no idea what had happened to him.
Brenda

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 22 May 2012 23:30

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1905 (>99%)

Grasby Mary Alice Hartlepool 10a 272
JUKES James Hartlepool 10a 272


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Dec 1882 (>99%)
Grasby Mary Alice Hartlepool 10a 142

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 22 May 2012 23:34

Looks like he may have been ship-board at the time of the 1911

1911 Census Household Record
Household information
Address 25 Ouston St West Hartlepool
Parish West Hartlepool
Town West Hartlepool
Number of Rooms 2 Rooms
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN29620 RD545 SD1 ED20 SN268
Administrative County Durham
Registration District Hartlepool
Registration Sub District Hartlepool
Enumeration District 20
Householder 1
Name Alice Jukes
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender F
Age 29
Estimated Year of Birth 1882
Occupation House- Wife
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth West Hartlepool Cty Durham
Nationality Brit Sub: By Parentage
Householder 2
Name Rose Evelyn Jukes
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 5
Estimated Year of Birth 1906
Occupation At School
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Durham W Hpool
Nationality Brit Sub: By Parentage
Householder 3
Name Alice Jane Jukes
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 3
Estimated Year of Birth 1908
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Durham W Hpool
Nationality Brit Sub: By Parentage
Householder 4
Name James Norman Jukes
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 6 Months
Estimated Year of Birth 1911
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Durham W Hpool
Nationality Brit Sub: By Parentage
Householder 5
Name Thomas William Jukes
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 6 Months
Estimated Year of Birth 1911
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Durham W Hpool
Nationality Brit Sub: By Parentage
Householder 6
Name Alice Jukes
Relationship to Head of Household Sister In Law
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender F
Age 19
Estimated Year of Birth 1892
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Durham W Hpool
Nationality Brit Sub: By Parentage

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 22 May 2012 23:39

Four children on the census and these two from FreeBMD so the six children you mention.

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Dec 1911 (>99%)
Jukes Herbert Grasby Hartlepool 10a 270

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Sep 1913 (>99%)
Jukes Harold C Grasby Hartlepool 10a 279

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 May 2012 16:32

pm from Brenda (in my reply to my "jumped ship" question)

He might have been in the merchant navy. When my gt grandmother went to the shipping office (to collect the money he sent every week) the staff there said he was no longer on the ship and they didn't know where he had gone.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 May 2012 16:39

Not sure if this is our man, perhaps Brenda could confirm the family?

British Army Service Records 1760-1915
First name(s): James
Last name: JUKES
Calculated year of birth: 1883
Parish of birth: North Ormsby
Town of birth: Middlesbrough
County of birth: Yorkshire
Age at attestation: 21 years 6 months
Attestation date: 1 June 1904
Attestation corps: 3RD YORKS REGT
Attestation soldier number: 5947
Discharge rank:
Discharge corps: Princess Of Wales's Own (Yorkshire Regiment) - 19th Foot
Discharge soldier number:
The National Archives reference: WO96 / 387 / 52

This chap lived 21 Stephenson Street and next of kin was father Rubin, mother Mary, brother John and sister Lizzie. He was a labourer for a Mr Dring.

EDIT: there's a tree on ancestry has James' parents as William and Rose Ann, so this may be a different James.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 May 2012 16:43

This is the only Merchant Navy record similar to his name:

Merchant Navy Seamen 1835-1941

Last name:JUKES
First names:J R
Age:24
Day of birth:
Month of birth:
Year of birth:
Place of birth:Britain
County/country of birth:Britain
Card type:CR2
Discharge number:988059
Identity certificate no.:
Series:BT348Date
range:1921-1941
Piece number:1

The age seems to be that given on the date of engagement which was 13/02/1925, which implies this chap was born c1901.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 May 2012 17:09

If James was ship's crew he could have ended up anywhere in the world. We need Brenda to come back and confirm his family details - if he'd perhaps died overseas then some countries records give parents names which might help us.

Brenda

Brenda Report 17 Feb 2013 10:01

James Jukes was married to Alice (or Mary Alice) Grasby. I can confirm that the info posted by JustDinosaurJill (23 May2012) is my gt grandmother and her children. James was the son of William Jukes and Rose Gibson. After James abandoned his family, local newspaper reports confirm that Alice and her children were eventually sent to the workhouse because William could not support his daughter-in-law or his grandchildren.

Choccy

Choccy Report 17 Feb 2013 10:27



?? Born Middlesbrough - Crew Member (Fireman)



New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922

Name: J Jukes
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Age: 37
Port of Departure: Brisbane Rockhanth
Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales
Voyage Arrival Date: 12 Nov 1917
Vessel Name: Chillagoe


Brenda

Brenda Report 17 Feb 2013 11:52

Thanks Choccy. Family folklore suggests he went to Australia. I have no evidence to prove or disprove. Any suggestions for moving this forward, anyone?