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Ellen Harpham

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Reggie Report 6 Oct 2012 09:09

Marriages Jun 1928 (>99%)

Bland Edmund Marrison Wakefield 9c 140
Marrison Dorothy E Bland Wakefield 9c 140


Reggie Report 6 Oct 2012 09:10

1911 census

Person: MARRISON, Dorothy Address: 87 Sandy Lane Worksop

MARRISON, George Head Married M 37 1874 Coal Miner Hewer Notts Worksop VIEW
MARRISON, Mary Wife Married16 years F 35 1876 Notts Worksop VIEW
MARRISON, Winnifred Daughter Single F 17 1894 Laundry Maid Ironer Notts Worksop VIEW
MARRISON, Jessie Daughter Single F 9 1902 Notts Worksop VIEW
MARRISON, Dorothy Daughter Single F 1 1910 Notts Worksop VIEW
HARRISON, Edward Father In Law Widower M 66 1845 Colliery Fireman Below Ground Lincs Scotter VIEW
MARRISON, Joseph Brother Single M 29 1882 Colliery Trammer Underground Notts Worksop


Reggie Report 6 Oct 2012 09:13

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006

Name: Dorothy Evelyn Bland
Birth Date: 24 Jul 1909
Date of Registration: Oct 1996
Age at Death: 87
Registration district: Wakefield
Inferred County: Yorkshire
Register Number: C47A
District and Subdistrict: 0991C
Entry number: 74

West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935

Name: Dorothy Evelyn Marrison
Birth Year: abt 1910
Marriage or Bann Date: 26 May 1928
Parish: Wakefield, St Michael
Father's Name: George Marrison
Spouse's Name: Edmund Bland
Spouse's Father's Name: Wallace Bland


Reggie Report 6 Oct 2012 09:16

West Yorkshire, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1985

Name: George Marrison
Birth Year: abt 1873
Parish: Crofton, All Saints
Burial Date: 31 Dec 1956
Burial Age: 83


Lexie Report 7 Nov 2012 13:12

Is it at all possible to find any details of marriage without buying cert.I am trying to trace a Wilfred Marrison b 1914 Hemsworth who may have married a Ethel Winn Doncaster 1933.He was the son of George Marrison and Mary Harrison.Thank you


Reggie Report 7 Nov 2012 13:24

No it isn't..........

And some acknowledgement of all the MARRISON info posted a month ago would have been nice!


Lexie Report 7 Nov 2012 13:43

Sorry for any offence.I do appreciate all the help ive been given.I dont always think to go back after day of posting as i presumed that all the people who had helped me had moved on.I stand rebuked.


Lexie Report 13 Nov 2012 09:21

Please can anyone offer any advice.Obtained marriage certificate for Thomas Harpham and Jane Maria Harpham
1861 Elizabeth Head
Ellen Daughter
Thomas b 1858
Jane Maria b 1860 Grandchildren

1871 Thomas still living with Ellen discribed as Nephew Ellen now married to Charles Marrison

1886 Thomas Harpham marries Jane Maria Harpham in Brightom
Thomas Harpham b 1858 Labourer father George deceased Grocer
Jane Maria Harpham b 1860 father Charles Harpham Bricklayer
They marry St Peters Church
witnesses David Cooper and Eliza Stubbs

Ive looked and looked but cant come up with any matches can anyone help
Thank you


Reggie Report 13 Nov 2012 09:28

What info are you looking for, Lexie?


Reggie Report 13 Nov 2012 09:33

1911 England Census

Name: Thomas Harpham
Age in 1911: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Worksop, Nottingham, England
Civil parish: Worksop
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street Address: Town Ball Worksop
Marital Status: Married
Years married: 24
Estimated Marriage Year: 1887
Occupation: Town Hall Keeper
Registration district: Worksop
Registration District Number: 427
Sub-registration district: Worksop
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 104
Piece: 20230
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Harpham 52
Jane Maria Harpham 51
Gladys Anny Harpham 20
Jack Harpham 17

1861 England Census

Name: Jane Harpham
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil parish: Worksop
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Registration district: Worksop
Sub-registration district: Worksop
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 157
Piece: 2419
Folio: 105
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Harpham 50
Ellen Harpham 18
Thomas Harpham 2*********************Grandson
Jane Harpham 7

It looks extremely likely that he lied about knowing his father on the marriage cert, and that he was the son of ELLEN.

Try looking for baptism records, as I doubt that his birth would have been registered


Lexie Report 13 Nov 2012 10:47

Thank you for your reply.What i am trying to find is the relationship between Thomas and Jane apart from marriage.They lived in the same house as children.At the age of 11 Jane is found as a servant and i think she may have been a servant in Doncaster in 1881.For whatever reason they then marry in Brighton in 1866 but after a few years return to Worksop.
1871 discribes Thomas as Nephew of Ellen
Ellen on her marriage certificate says her father is James
I dont know who is telling the truth as i cant find anybody together.Why would Thomas and Jane Marry in Brighton


HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 13 Nov 2012 18:26

Lexie as I said a long time ago...I think you need the birth certificates of Jane and Thomas as well.


Reggie Report 13 Nov 2012 22:04

We can't possibly say why the marriage took place where it did.............although it's possible that they were blood relations of some sort

Did you take note of what I posted earlier - along with 1861?

It looks extremely likely that he lied about knowing his father on the marriage cert, and that he was the son of ELLEN.

You MUST get birth/baptism info for both Thomas and Jane

BUY these certs!

Births Dec 1858 (>99%)
HARPHAM Thomas Harpham Baxter Worksop 7b 25

Births Mar 1860 (>99%)
HARPHAM Jane Maria Worksop 7b 26

It's the ONLY way to get the answers you want


Lexie Report 14 Nov 2012 10:13

Thank you for your advice i guess i bought the wrong Cert.False economy.Back to the drawing board


HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 14 Nov 2012 19:52

No I don't thing you bought the wrong cert, Lexie. I said all along you needed the two birth certificates AND the marriage certificate. When you have all three you will have a greater chance of building the picture