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Jenny
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27 Jun 2012 17:27 |
Wow, thats really helpful. I am fairly new to this. What about the difference in surnames of Collings. Are they still likely to be connected to me as we are Collins?
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Jenny
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27 Jun 2012 16:33 |
Wow, that al looks really helpful. I am fairly new to all of this. What about the spelling of the surnames. I was looking for Collins. Will that make any difference?
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27 Jun 2012 11:44 |
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1841 Census 12 Records found Piece: HO107/139/3 Place: Kerrier -Cornwall Enumeration District: 28 Civil Parish: Stithians Ecclesiastical Parish: - Folio: 49 Page: 12 Address: Menerdue
Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks BEARD Joseph M 37 Copper Miner Cornwall BEARD Elizth. F 30 Wife (Crossed Out) Cornwall BEARD James M 12 Cornwall BEARD William M 10 Cornwall BEARD Elizth. F 2 Cornwall BEARD Jethro M 3 Cornwall BEARD Jane F 3 Cornwall BEARD Mary Ann F 4m Cornwall BEARD John M 4m Cornwall MARTIN Edward M 30 Male Servant Cornwall MARTIN Mary F 17 Servant Cornwall MOIL Mary F 12 Servant Cornwall
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27 Jun 2012 11:33 |
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Groom's Name: Benjamin Martin Groom's Birth Date: Groom's Birthplace: Groom's Age: Bride's Name: Jane Vincent Bride's Birth Date: Bride's Birthplace: Bride's Age: Marriage Date: 12 May 1823 Marriage Place: Wendron, Cornwall, England Groom's Father's Name: Groom's Mother's Name: Bride's Father's Name: Bride's Mother's Name: Groom's Race: Groom's Marital Status: Groom's Previous Wife's Name: Bride's Race: Bride's Marital Status: Bride's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I05644-1 System Origin: England-EASy Source Film Number: 1596317 Reference Number: p 96
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27 Jun 2012 11:29 |
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Day Month 11-Jun Year 1823 Parish Or Reg District Stithians Forename Mary Surname MARTIN Sex F Father Forename Benjamin Mother Forename Jane Residence Wendron Father Rank Profession Husbandman Notes Transcriber Notes Transcriber Michael Bath
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27 Jun 2012 11:27 |
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Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks COLLINS William Head M M 33 Granite Stone Cutter Cornwall - Mabe COLLINS Mary Wife M F 40 Stone Cutter's Wife Cornwall - Stithians COLLINS Elizabeth Dau - F 8 Scholar Cornwall - Mabe COLLINS Mary J Dau - F 5 Scholar Cornwall - Mabe COLLINS Hannah Dau - F 3 Scholar Cornwall - Mabe COLLINS William Son - M 4m Cornwall - Stithians
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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27 Jun 2012 11:22 |
1881 Wales Census about Nicholas Collings Name: Nicholas Collings Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane Collings Gender: Male Where born: Mabe, Cornwall, England Civil parish: St Woollos County/Island: Monmouthshire Country: Wales Street Address: 12 Upper Raglan St Education: View image Employment status: View image Occupation: Mason & Weighing Constable Registration district: Newport Sub-registration district: Newport ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 5265 Folio: 30 Page Number: 54 Household Members: Name Age Nicholas Collings 32 Jane Collings 30 Ellen J. Collings 10 William N. Collings 8 Sarah A. Collings 7 Eliza Collings 5 Mary E. Collings Using second names on this census as children have the same names.
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27 Jun 2012 11:12 |
parents: Nicholas Collings spouse: Mary Martin groom's name: William Collings bride's name: Mary Martin marriage date: 30 Jan 1853 marriage place: Saint Gluvias,Cornwall,England groom's father's name: Nicholas Collings bride's father's name: Benjamin indexing project (batch) number: M03555-1 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 246839, 246840
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27 Jun 2012 10:44 |
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Day Month 30-Jan Year 1853 Parish Or Reg District Gluvias, St. Groom Fn William Groom Sn COLLINGS Groom Age Full Groom Residence Penryn Groom Condition Bachelor Groom Rank Profession Stone Mason Groom Signed / Marked (S/M) M Groom Father Name Nicholas Groom Father Rank Profession Stonemason Bride Fn Mary Bride Sn MARTIN Bride Age Full Bride Residence Penryn Bride Condition Spinster Bride Rank Profession Bride Signed / Marked (S/M) M Bride Father Name Benjamin Bride Father Rank Profession Stonemason Banns / Licence (B/L) Banns Witness Fn1 Thomas Witness Sn1 Evans Witness Fn2 Elizabeth Witness Sn2 Paul Other Information mark: Elizabeth Paul Transcriber Notes Transcriber M.Topham
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Jenny
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26 Jun 2012 22:26 |
I have got a marriage certificate for William and Ellen Collins. Ellen Jane was formerly a Collins and she married a Collins so that really helps with me moving on. Ellen Jane Collins father was James Collins (1830-1885) & her mother was Jane Beard (1830). I have Williams birth record which shows him born on 9th Dec 1860 in Stithians, Cornwall. It states on the certificate that his father was also William (Stone Mason) and his mother was Mary Martin. That is as far as I can get. I seem to have hit a brick wall with going back on these pair...any suggestions? I need to know who William Collins and Mary Martins parents are. I assume they are Cornwall connected?
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Jenny
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2 Jun 2012 13:55 |
Thanks for your replies. It does look like I am going to have to obtain a marriage certificate and go from there. There are just to many "could be records" at the moment. It was worth a go.
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2 Jun 2012 13:34 |
1861
Name: James Collins Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane Collins Gender: Male Where born: Stythians, Cornwall, England Civil parish: Stithians County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Redruth Sub-registration district: Gwennap ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 44 Piece: 1578 Folio: 109 Page Number: 9 Household Members: Name Age James Collins 31 Tin Miner (not recorded as blind) Jane Collins 31 Eliza Collins 8 James Collins 7 Thomas Collins 5 William Collins 3 Jethro Collins 1 Elizabeth Beard 57 Alfred James Beard 15
Marriages Dec 1852 BEARD Jane Redruth 5c 504 COLLINS James Redruth 5c 504
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Name: James Collins Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830 Relation: Son Father's Name: James Collins Mother's name: Eliza Collins Gender: M (Male) Where born: Stythians, Cornwall, England Civil parish: Stithians County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Redruth Sub-registration district: Gwennap ED, institution, or vessel: 1d Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 4 Piece: 1914 Folio: 59 Page Number: 5 Household Members: Name Age James Collins 44 Copper Miner Eliza Collins 61 James Collins 21 Copper Miner William Collins 19 Henry Collins 17 Thomas Collins 15 Eleanor Collins 13 Jane Collins 9 Grace Collins 6 Maryann Collins 4 Eliza Collins 1
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Name: Elizabeth Beard Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804 Relation: Head Gender: F (Female) Where born: Wendron, Cornwall, England Civil parish: Stithians County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Redruth Sub-registration district: Gwennap ED, institution, or vessel: 1d Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 48 Piece: 1914 Folio: 66 Page Number: 23 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Beard 47 Widow, Churn Woman Jane Beard 21 Mine Girl Elizabeth Beard 18 Jethro Beard 16 Alfred Beard 6 Son
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Name: Elizbth Beard Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806 Gender: Female Where born: Cornwall, England Civil parish: Wendron Hundred: Kerrier County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Helston Sub-registration district: Wendron Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 139 Book: 6 Folio: 55 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Elizbth Beard 35 School Mistress William Beard 16 Jane Beard 10 Elizth Beard 8 Jethro Beard 5
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2 Jun 2012 13:23 |
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Name: Ellen Collins Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: James Collins Mother's name: Jane Collins Gender: Female Where born: Stithians, Cornwall, England Civil parish: Stithians Town: Church County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Registration district: Redruth Sub-registration district: Gwennap ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Household schedule number: 39 Piece: 2314 Folio: 77 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age James Collins 41 Rag Gatherer Jane Collins 41 James Collins 17 Thomas Collins 15 William Collins 13 Jethro Collins 11 Ellen Collins 9 Bessie Collins 7 Alfred Collins 2 Elizabeth Beard 68 Mother-in-law Alfred Beard 25 Brother-in-law
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Chrissie2394
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2 Jun 2012 13:18 |
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Births Jun 1862 (>99%) COLLINS Ellen Jane Redruth 5c 26[14]
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rootgatherer
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2 Jun 2012 13:14 |
There is more than 1 William Collins born around that time in the same area so you really need the marriage certificate.
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1861
Name: William Collins Age: 4 Months Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relation: Son Father's Name: William Collins Mother's name: Mary Collins Gender: Male Where born: Stithians, Cornwall, England Civil parish: Stithians County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Redruth Sub-registration district: Gwennap ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 90 Piece: 1578 Folio: 71 Page Number: 19 Household Members: Name Age William Collins 33 Granite Stone Cutter Mary Collins 40 Elizabeth Collins 8 Mary I Collins 5 Hannah Collins 3 William Collins 4 Mon
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Chrissie2394
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2 Jun 2012 13:12 |
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COLLINS, James Head Married M 51 1830 Blind Stithians, Cornwall COLLINS, Jane Wife Married F 51 1830 Wendron, Cornwall COLLINS, William Son Single M 23 1858 Stone Mason Stithians, Cornwall COLLINS, Jethro Son Single M 21 1860 Stone Mason Stithians, Cornwall >>>>COLLINS, Ellen J Daughter Single F 18 1863 Domestic Assistant Stithians, Cornwall COLLINS, Bessie Daughter Single F 16 1865 Dressmaker Stithians, Cornwall COLLINS, Alfred Son Single M 12 1869 Scholar Stithians, Cornwall
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2 Jun 2012 13:11 |
1891
Name: William Collins Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ellen J Collins Gender: Male Where born: Stithians, Cornwall, England Civil parish: Stithians Ecclesiastical parish: Stithians Town: Herniss County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Redruth Sub-registration district: Gwennap ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1845 Folio: 70 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age William Collins 30 Stone Mason Ellen J Collins 28 William J Collins 1
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MarieCeleste
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2 Jun 2012 13:11 |
If you want to be doubly sure then buy one of the children's birth certificates to confirm mother's maiden name.
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Chrissie2394
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2 Jun 2012 13:08 |
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1890 (>99%) COLLINS Ellen Jane Redruth 5c 310 COLLINS William Redruth 5c 310 Mankee William James Redruth 5c 310 WILLS Bessie Redruth 5c 310
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2 Jun 2012 13:07 |
Marriage certificate will give the names and occupations of their fathers.
Marriages Mar 1890 COLLINS Ellen Jane Redruth 5c 310 COLLINS William Redruth 5c 310
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