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Kath

Kath Report 6 Jul 2012 03:17

I am looking for the burial of my great grandmother. She was Charlotte Cornock, born in Gloucestershire circa 1818 and died in Deptford Kent in 1890. I could not find her on the burial index or in the place of her birth or death. As she died intestate, probate was given to her son, but I can't find the other next of kin, despite applying for an 'admon'.
Any suggestions welcome!
yewtree

Susan

Susan Report 6 Jul 2012 03:26

For Ref is this her


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Charlotte Cornock Name: Charlotte Cornock
Probate Date: 29 Jul 1890
Death Date: 14 Jul 1890
Death Place: London, England
Registry: Principal Registry

Principal Registry to george Cornock of 46 Johns Rd baker the son and one of the NOK 63 pounds

Susan

Susan Report 6 Jul 2012 03:34

She is not appearing on census with anyone else that I can see


1881 England Census
about Charlotte Cornock Name: Charlotte Cornock
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Mother
Gender: Female
Where born: Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Deptford St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 11C Garden Row
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford
ED, institution, or vessel: 56
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 712
Folio: 124
Page Number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
George Cornock 25 <<<master Baker
Charlotte Cornock 60


Susan

Susan Report 6 Jul 2012 03:46

Son George appears here with Uncle (if it is the correct one)

NO siblings here for George,all other children are Thomas and Hannahs



1861 England Census
about George Cornock Name: George Cornock
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Slimbridge, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Slimbridge
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Dursley
Sub-registration district: Dursley
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 58
Piece: 1753
Folio: 122
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Cornock 36
Hannah Cornock 37
Cornelius Cornock 11
Thomas Cornock 10
James Cornock 7
Ann Cornock 4
William Cornock 1
George Cornock 5



Susan

Susan Report 6 Jul 2012 03:53

Possibly Georges marriage ..gives father as George a Baker but I cannot find him with anymore family members ,I think he is with grandparents in 1871 aged 15

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about George Cornock Name: George Cornock
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Spouse Name: Emily Lavinia Connor
Spouse Age: 42
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1891
Parish: Deptford St Paul
Borough: Lewisham
Father Name: George Cornock
Spouse Father Name: Francis Bridges
Register Type: Parish Register

Kath

Kath Report 6 Jul 2012 03:56

Hello Susan,
Thanks for your replies re Charlotte Cornock, yes, this is my gt grandmother, she was never married as far as I can discover, but had an illegitimate son, George and I think an illegitimate daughter,Ellen, born circa 1847. I would like to know who were the next of kin mentioned in the probate grant, given to son George in 1890. I applied to the probate office for a copy of the admon, as she died intestate, but they did not send that ,only a copy of the probate grant, a copy of which I already had.
Your help much appreciated.
Kath

K

K Report 6 Jul 2012 04:01

A tree on Ancestry lists another child of Margaret as Eleanor Jane Cornack. In 1861 she is living with Margarets parents as a grandaughter and by 1871 she is listed as daughter

1861

Name: Ellen J Charnock
[Ellen J Francis]
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: N Wales, Bangor

Civil parish: Slimbridge
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image

Registration district: Dursley
Sub-registration district: Dursley
ED, institution, or vessel: 10c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 72
Piece: 1753
Folio: 137
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Charnock 69
Ann Charnock 64
Ellen J Charnock 14

1871
Name: Eleanor J Hard
[Sharon Francis]
[Eleanor J Cornock]
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Daughter
Spouse's Name: Henry Hard
Father's Name: Thomas Cornock
Gender: Female
Where born: Slimbridge, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Slimbridge
Town: Slimbridge
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Dursley
Sub-registration district: Dursley
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 70
Piece: 2595
Folio: 73
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Cornock 79
Henry Hard 26
Eleanor J Hard 23
William H Hard 4
Mary A Hard 2
Collen C Hard 10 Months
George Cornock 15

Susan

Susan Report 6 Jul 2012 04:14

That 1871 census posted by K has an alteration.


Contributions for Eleanor J Hard
This is what other Ancestry members have added to this record.
1 Contributions
Name
sharon francis rather than Eleanor J Hard
Should be HURD
Submitted by francis4_1 on 22/06/2007

Kath

Kath Report 6 Jul 2012 05:01

Hi Susan,
A lot of confucion here !
Eleanor Jane is first recorded on the 1851 census of Slimbridge,Glos as Ellen Loyd aged 3 a relative born Cheltenham living with Thomas and Ann Cornock. in the 1861 census she is recorded as Eleanor Jane Charnock aged 13yrs, still living with her grandparents Thomas and Ann in Slimbridge Glos. By the 1871 census she is married to Henry Hurd, and born in Bangor,N.Wales. and still living in Slimbridge. When Henry died,she married Emmanuel Hobbs in 1891 and aged 43. On various censuses she was born Cheltenham,Slimbridge and Bangor! She died in 1929 in Slimbridge. I have looked for her under the names of Loyd,Cornock,Hurd and Hobbs, but still have not found her real date and place of birth or who her parents were ! She is a real mystery.Was her mother Charlotte Cornock, a daughter of Thomas and Anne???
Confusion reigns....
Kath

Susan

Susan Report 6 Jul 2012 05:38

I think this is Thomas in 1841 ,still more confused.
That Francis name comes in again...no sign of a Charlotte but should could have left home by now.

1841 England Census
about Thomas Cornack Name: Thomas Cornack
[Thomas Francis]
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Gender: Male
Where born: Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Slimbridge
Hundred: Berkeley (Upper Division)
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Dursley
Sub-registration district: Dursley
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 348
Book: 6
Folio: 19
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Cornack 50 <<<cordwinder...all of the area
Ann Cornack 45
Amelia Cornack 20
Thomas Cornack 15
Alexina Cornack 9



Susan

Susan Report 6 Jul 2012 05:52


Kath do you have any marriage certs for Ellen it could have her fathers name on any one of the two if she knew that is.

Sue

Susan

Susan Report 6 Jul 2012 05:56

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Henry Hurd Name: Henry Hurd
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1866
Registration district: Gloucester
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 470

Eleanor J Cornock

.......................
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Emmaniel Hobbs Name: Emmaniel Hobbs
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1891
Registration district: Dursley
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 339

Eleanor Jane Hurd

Kath

Kath Report 6 Jul 2012 07:13

Hi Susan
On her marriage cert to Henry Hurd she named her father as Thomas Cornock, but really this was her grandfather.
On her marriage certificate to Emanuel Hobbs in 1891 at Slimbridge, no father was entered for Eleanor Jane Hurd, just that she was a widow aged 43yrs. I think the Francis entry is a mistake, I could be wrong but I don't think so.There is no mention of the name Francis on any other document relating to the family that I have seen.
Thanks again for the info.
Kath

Susan

Susan Report 6 Jul 2012 08:02



Hi Kath

I just find it strange to have Sharon Francis on the corrected 1871 census for eleanor J posted by K ....and the 1841 census I posted for 1841 for Thomas.

Is it possible that the families last name was Francis at some point.

Sue

Edit
In that 1841 Census I posted all the family are know also as last name Francis

K

K Report 6 Jul 2012 08:29

I think Francis entries are an Ancestry error. Sharon Francis reported an error in the transcription of the Cornock name and her name seems to have been attached to the family in other years than the one she reported the error - 1871.

Apologies I should have edited my post, but returned to sleep afterwards having been originally woken by a deluge of rain

Good Luck Kay

Susan

Susan Report 6 Jul 2012 09:05



Thanks K

That does explain a lot....I thought I was going nuts there for a while .

So back to Cornock

Gins

Gins Report 6 Jul 2012 09:53

You can send for a copy of the full will from here - £6incl


http://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/probate

Gins

Gins Report 6 Jul 2012 10:09

Kath


Is this your tree at Ancestry?


Charlotte Cornock
Stephensupdate<<tree owner
Birth: 7 Mar 1818 - Gloucestershire, England
Death: 14 Jul 1890 - London, London, England
Parents: Thomas Cornock, Ann Iles

Gins

Gins Report 6 Jul 2012 10:17

Charlotte Cornock
Death: 14th July 1898, 46 St Johns Road, age 73
Cause of death: pleuropneumonia
Widow of: George Cornock Bakerman

Informant: George Cornock, son in attendance

Gins

Gins Report 6 Jul 2012 13:14

I dont understand why you said she died Intestate, there is a probate record for her?

Have you tried the link that I posted to ask for a search of the will?