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John Richard Goodwin Brewer

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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 30 Jul 2013 23:26

Yes, he's around Dea (although a while later!)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1328844?page=0

Dea

Dea Report 11 Jul 2012 06:50

Are you there George?

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 10 Jul 2012 13:26

Well, you seem to have it all sorted then Ginns - I am sure that George will be pleased when he checks back in.

That tree on Ancestry has quite a lot of useful info on it! - all needs checking though, as you say, but I think that the marriage you have found at least proves that we are now following the correct family.

Well done,

Dea Xxx

Gins

Gins Report 10 Jul 2012 11:20

England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940
Name: Henry Kemp Brewer
Gender: Male
Father's Name: Henry Kemp Brewer
Spouse's Name: Harriet Goodwin
Spouse's Father's Name: Richard Goodwin
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1849
Marriage Place: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England


Oooher.................naughty Harriet and Henry


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Richard Brewer Goodwin
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1849
Registration district: Mutford
Inferred County: Norfolk, Suffolk
Volume: 13
Page: 506

Gins

Gins Report 10 Jul 2012 11:12

1851 England Census
Name: Richard Brewer
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Visitor
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Gorleston, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Gorleston
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Registration district: Mutford
Sub-registration district: Kessingland
ED, institution, or vessel: 6a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 140
Piece: 1805
Folio: 566
Page Number: 32
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Goodwin 48
Ann Goodwin 15
Richard Brewer 2


1881 England Census
about Richard Brewer
Name: Richard Brewer
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Vessels
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: "Lively" <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<!
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Mate (FM)

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: Lovely <<<<<<<<<<<!
Piece: 4783
Folio: 67
Page Number: -8
_____________________________________________________________

From a tree

Richard G Brewer
Woodgate Family Tree 1a
Birth: 1848 - Norfolk, England
Marriage: 1868
Death: 1918 - Hull, Yorkshire, England
Parents: Henry Kemp Brewer, Harriet Goodwin
Spouse: Sarah Ann Staff

Dea

Dea Report 10 Jul 2012 11:11

Have to go out Ginns but I an sure you have found the correct one - will check back when I return.

Dea Xxx

Gins

Gins Report 10 Jul 2012 11:09

The girls birth from the above census


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Sarah Ann G Brewer
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1878
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire - East Riding, Humberside
Volume: 9d
Page: 278

And from a tree at Ancestry (needs checking with certs)


Sarah Ann Goodwin Brewer
Burrows/Hudson Family Tree
Birth: Mar 1878 - Yorkshire, England
Marriage: 23 Aug 1899 - Newington
Parents: Richard Goodwin Brewer, Sarah Ann Staff
Spouse: William Henry Barker

Dea

Dea Report 10 Jul 2012 10:39

That looks a 'very possible' Ginns.

I will explore......................

Dea x

Gins

Gins Report 10 Jul 2012 10:25

1891 England Census
Name: John R Brower
[John R Brewer]
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Richard Brower
Mother's name: Sarah A Brower
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: Newington
Town: Newington
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub-registration district: Hessle
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3918
Folio: 8
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Brower 43 <<<<<<<<Fisherman
Sarah A Brower 39
George W Brower 13
Sarah A Brower 13
John R Brower 8
Laura L Brower 5
Ethel B Brower 1


George, please stick to one thread about this family or we all end repeating info

Reggie

Reggie Report 10 Jul 2012 10:16

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1303638

Gins

Gins Report 10 Jul 2012 09:41

BREWER, GEORGE E.
Rank:Sailor
Date of Death:01/10/1940
Age:25
Regiment/Service:Merchant Navy
S.S. Empire Success (London).
Grave ReferenceCompt. 198. Grave 32.
CemeteryHULL NORTHERN CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of John Richard and Susan Brewer, of Hull; husband of Madge Brewer, of Hull.


Marriages Jun 1940
----------------------------------------------------
Bodecott Madge Brewer Hull 9d 750
Brewer George E Bodecott Hull 9d 750


So sad for the parents losing two sons and then poor Madge lost her husband soon after marriage and she had a daughter registered the same quarter as the marriage


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
Name: Madge Brewer
Birth Date: 6 Oct 1916
Date of Registration: Jul 2005
Age at Death: 88
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire
Register Number: A72A
District and Subdistrict: 550/1A
Entry number: 210

http://www.iannounce.co.uk/North-East-England/28?_fstatus=search;keywords=Madge%20BREWER



The daughter for the couple (I think its the daughter) is on 192.com. It looks like Madge had a son registered in Jan/March 1941

Dea

Dea Report 10 Jul 2012 09:37

What you REALLY need is a copy of that marriage cert for John and Susan to see if his father is given as 'William', a fisherman, then all will link up beautifully.

Dea Xxx

Dea

Dea Report 10 Jul 2012 09:28

George,

I am still working on this but have a slight 'quandry' !! :-(

I have found a PERFECT candidate for your' John's father!

I have followed him backwards and forwards and everything seems to fit BUT, his middle name is ' GOODRIDGE'.

I will come back with all the details if I can find some 'proof', but I DO think it is him......... SO frustrating !!! :-(

Dea Xxx

Dea

Dea Report 10 Jul 2012 08:18

These are all 'possible' births from FreeBMD site.


Births Sep 1911
BREWER William H Morris Sculcoates 9d 288


Births Mar 1914
BREWER George W Morris Sculcoates 9d 278 ***
BREWER Leslie Morris Sculcoates 9d 277 ***


Births Jun 1915
BREWER George E Morris Sculcoates 9d 309


Births Dec 1919
Brewer Lewis S Morris Sculcoates 9d 309

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It is 'possible' that the two in 1914 were twins - Twins will normally be recorded on the same page + reference number and these are not, but they are on consecutive pages so one may have been the last entry and the next at the top of the following page?

However, it DOES lead us to beware though because if they were not twins it means that there was another Brewer/Morris couple having children in the same area around the same time so the children may not necessarily be the ones you want.

What else do you need to know?

Please keep any further questions on this family to this same thread so as to avoid duplication of research.

Thanks,

Dea x

George

George Report 9 Jul 2012 23:55

If you are Bored Would you like to Look Up his brothers. He was born Blackpool next one I know of was Edinburough The rest I believe Hull. That what was giving me the headache. i was led to believe we were all Hull.

Thanks again

George

George Report 9 Jul 2012 23:39

This is absolutely "Brilliant" stuff. "Thank You Very Much" For your time and Interest.


Thank You Dea, Gins and Cupcakes

Dea

Dea Report 9 Jul 2012 21:01

bumped up for George !!

Dea Xxx

Gins

Gins Report 9 Jul 2012 11:41

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1875
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name

MORRIS Joshua Poulton-le-Fylde Blackpool DRUMMOND PLF/32/75


MORRIS Susan Churchman Drummond Poulton-le-Fylde Blackpool DRUMMOND PLF/48/


There are other siblings and you can search here for free



http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/cgi/birthind.cgi


Parents marriage for Sus*



Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1868
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office

MORRIS William Henry DRUMMOND Elizabeth Blackpool, St.John Blackpool D/1/332

Gins

Gins Report 9 Jul 2012 11:29

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Susan Churchman D Morris
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1885
Registration district: Fylde
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 714

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
Name: Susan M C R D Brewer
Birth Date: abt 1886
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1939
Age at Death: 53
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 401


Looks like his mom but you need the certs to prove it

Dea

Dea Report 9 Jul 2012 11:09

This is him on 1911:

BREWER, Susan Wife Married 3 years F 25 1886 Lane Blackpool
BREWER, John Son M 2 1909 Lane Blackpool

RG number: RG14
Piece: 28641
Reference: RG14PN28641 RG78PN1646 RD521 SD4 ED31 SN125
Registration District: Sculcoates
Sub District: Hessle
Enumeration District: 31
Parish: Sculcoates
Address: 9 Elm Avenue Liverpool St Hull
County: Yorkshire (East riding)


Husband John was 'at sea'

Dea x