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Trying to find Isabella Hare andJohn Solomon Hare

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OldYorkshireBloke

OldYorkshireBloke Report 15 Jul 2012 11:10

Hello

I am trying to find Isabella Hare maiden name Foster (born Darlason 1840) and John Solomon Hare (born Tipton 1846). They were married in in Moxley Staffordshire in 1869.

They appear on the 1871 census living in Bailey Street Tipton Staffordshire. After this I can't find any trace.

Any help would be much appreciated

Thanks

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 15 Jul 2012 11:34

For reference...

1871 England Census
about John Hares
Name: John Hares
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Isabell Hares
Gender: Male
Where born: Tipton, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Tipton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Tipton
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 87
Piece: 2999
Folio: 41
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
John Hares 26 (Labourer)
Isabell Hares 30 (Seamstress)


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 15 Jul 2012 11:52

I'm still looking.......but struggling to find them.

OldYorkshireBloke

OldYorkshireBloke Report 15 Jul 2012 11:57

Thanks

I've tried every combination of the name I can think of and come up with nothing, hoping fresh eyes can help

Reggie

Reggie Report 15 Jul 2012 12:10

Have you considered hat they may have emigrated?

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Jul 2012 12:12

John Solomon Hare
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 25 Jan 1846 St Martin's,? Tipton,? Stafford,? England
parents: William Hare,? Sarah


name: John Solomon Hare
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 25 Jan 1846
baptism/christening place: St Martin's, Tipton, Stafford, England
father's name: William Hare
mother's name: Sarah
indexing project (batch) number: C39464-3
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 1526134

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Jul 2012 12:14

John Hares
England and Wales Census, 1871
birth: 1845 Tipton,? Staffordshire
residence: 1871 Tipton,? Staffordshire,? England
spouse: Isabell Hares


name: John Hares
event: Census
event date: 1871
gender: Male
age: 26
relationship to head of household: Self
birthplace: Tipton, Staffordshire
record type: Household
registration district: Dudley
sub-district: Tipton
event parish: Tipton
county: Staffordshire

OldYorkshireBloke

OldYorkshireBloke Report 15 Jul 2012 12:26

Hi Reggie

yes I'd considered it but haven't found anything to indicate it

Reggie

Reggie Report 15 Jul 2012 12:29

How do you connect to them?

OldYorkshireBloke

OldYorkshireBloke Report 15 Jul 2012 12:47

Hi Reggie

I am currently researching my mother's maternal line - Foster. Isabella Foster is one of her ancestors

Reggie

Reggie Report 15 Jul 2012 12:49

So, if she is your mother's ancestor, one of her children must also be her ancestor.

Which child got you back to Isabella?

OldYorkshireBloke

OldYorkshireBloke Report 15 Jul 2012 13:30

Hi Reggie

I traced her throug the foster Line she is the daughter of Squire Foster c1798 and Hanna Essex c1799

Gins

Gins Report 15 Jul 2012 16:03

Ive just a had a llittle 'root' around. The only census that John shows up using the name Hare/Hares is the 1871, find that a bit odd

He's not showing on earlier censuses using that name, but there is a John Harris with the same parents, as per Anns post

Trouble is, there is also a John Harris baptism with the same parents name.....but he could be the same John Harris/Hare?

Nothing showing on the shipping records for either John or Isabella :-|


I dont suppose you know if John and Isabella had any little 'Hares', or when they died etc?

I'm probably talking #@###@@@@!!!!!


You need the birth certificate for John


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: John Hare
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1846
Registration district: Dudley
Inferred County: Staffordshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 18
Page: 33

OldYorkshireBloke

OldYorkshireBloke Report 15 Jul 2012 16:39

Hi

There is a christening entry for John Solomon Hare on Family Search

FamilySearch England Birth and Cristenings 1538 - 1975 Christening Date 25th January 1846 Name John Solomn Hare Christening Place St Martin's Tipton Staffordshire England Father's Name William Hare Mother's Name Sarah Batch Number C39464 - 3

and a marriage entry on FamilySearch for John Solomon Hare and Isabella Foster

FamilySearch England Marriages 1538 - 1973 Marriage Date 18th July 1869 Groom's Name John Solomon Hare Groom's Birth Date 1846 Groom's Age 23 Bride's Name Isabella Foster Bride's Birth Date 1841 Bride's Age 28 Marriage Place Moxley Staffordshire England Groom's Fathers Name William Hare Bride's Father's Name Squire Foster Batch Number M16725-2

I haven't found any record of children

OldYorkshireBloke

OldYorkshireBloke Report 15 Jul 2012 16:53

Got to go out for a while now. Back later

Gins

Gins Report 15 Jul 2012 17:26

Ive seen that info, thanks.

You still need the birth certificate so that you can get his full date of birth, address and his parents names, plus his fathers occupation

I have a feeling his mom was Sarah Attwell, buts thats speculation!

OldYorkshireBloke

OldYorkshireBloke Report 17 Jul 2012 10:51

Thanks for the responses. I'll leave this for now until I get the certificate
again thanksfor the help

Mary

Mary Report 17 Jul 2012 21:09

??Connection here,
There is a John Solomon Attwell born Tipton 1875.
Sarah Ann Hares marries John Joseph Attwell.

In St martins Tipton baptised by William Hares and Sarah (maybe nee Attwell)are
John Solomon
David William 1848 died 1849
William David baptised 22/7/1849
Sarah Anne bap 22/7/1849.

I think their surname has been mistranscribed and should be Ayres.

John Solomon Ayers born @ 1845 died Oct 1872 in Dudley 6c 32
Isabella Eyres married 1875 in Dudley 6c 105 to Thomas Ward James.
1881/91 in kimberworth Yorkshire.Isabella's birth 1841 Darleston.

Thomas Ward James born 1842 in Nothamptonshire and he also married Comfort Russell in 1863
In 1871 Comfort James in Tipton D13. 26.she is not with husband and has Emma and Sarah daughters,strange her death is reg 1880 so did Thomas Ward James commit bigamy with Isabella.

Maryb.

Mary

Mary Report 18 Jul 2012 09:23

1911 Hemsworth,Yorks
Isabel James a widow and inmate born Tipton Staffs 1842.
She died in Hemsworth 1919.

Maryb

Edit 1841 Tipton D13 > 13
Stephen Atwell 1801 bricklayer
Ann 1801
Sarah 15 married William Hares 1844
David 13 married Caroline Ward 1848 they had
John Attwell (Solomon) middle name born 1849 married Tamar Darbyshire 1869
They had
John Solomon Attwell 1875 Dudley

OldYorkshireBloke

OldYorkshireBloke Report 18 Jul 2012 22:22

Hi Mary

Thanks for the information, there could be something in this.
I thought life was supposed to have been simpler in the old days