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H can someone please look at the 1861 census for
James Drummond b-1811 Yorkshire residing Yorkshire
and James Drummond b-1812 Yorkshire residing Durham

hi are you sure about dates please

not seeing one in Yorkshire

here's the closest in Durham

1861 census

Address: Shiney Row, Painshaw

DRUMMOND, James Head Married M 47 1814 House Carpenter Painshaw, Durham
DRUMMOND, Elizabeth Wife Married F 34 1827 House Carpenters Wife Washington, Durham
DRUMMOND, Margeret J Daughter Unmarried F 7 1854 Painshaw, Durham
DRUMMOND, Sarah E Daughter Unmarried F 5 1856 Washington, Durham
DRUMMOND, Hannah Daughter Unmarried F 4 1857 Shiney Row, Durham
DRUMMOND, James Son Unmarried M 0 (3M) 1861 Shiney Row, Durham

It is on AN****** but not F/M/P
The one above b- 1814 is not mine thanks

1861 England Census
about James Drummond
Name: James Drummond
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: West Burton, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Burton cum Walden
Town: West Burton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Askrigg
Sub-registration district: Askrigg
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 77
Piece: 3670
Folio: 94
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
John Drummond 54
Mary Drummond 56
James Drummond 50

>>>>edit James is actually 10

fmp below


1861 census

Address: West Burton, Burton Cum Walden, West Burton

DRUMMOND, John Head Married M 54 1807 Farmer Thoralby, Yorkshire
DRUMMOND, Mary Wife Married F 50 1811 Farmers Wife Swaledale, Yorkshire
DRUMMOND, James Nephew Unmarried M 10 1851 Scholar West Burton, Yorkshire

1861 England Census
about James Drummond
Name: James Drummond
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812
Relation: A B Seaman (Seaman)
Gender: Male
Where born: Whitby, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Vessels
Town: South Shields
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Anglesey
Sub-registration district: Holyhead
ED, institution, or vessel: Friendship
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 4521
Folio: 105
Household Members: Name Age
John Hardcastle 36
James Drummond 49
Thomas Mitchel 22
William Wilkinson 20
Thomas Skinner 15

Thanks tempest does the Whitby one say if he is a widow

you're welcome, it says the Whitby one is married

Thanks again, I believe my James has gone back to sea after the death of his wife. James i believe was also born at Whitby but around 1819 but just wanted to check these out

here's fmp version of Whitby one

1861 census

Vessel: Prund ShipBrig Coasting Trade
Port/place: Whitby

DRUMAND, James Married M 49 1812 Ab Seaman Whitby York, England

It is a possibility and being married may be wrong as it should read widow unless he remarried after his wifes death in 1850 but he is also missing in the 1851 & 1871 census

1851 census

Address: Church Street, Whitby

DRUMMOND, James Head Married M 31 1820 Marriner Whitby, Yorkshire
DRUMMOND, Ann Wife Married F 34 1817 Marriners Wife Whitby, Yorkshire
DRUMMOND, Mary Ann Daughter Unmarried F 7 1844 Scholar Whitby, Yorkshire
DRUMMOND, Jane Daughter Unmarried F 4 1847 Scholar Whitby, Yorkshire
DRUMMOND, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 1 1850 At Home Whitby, Yorkshire

Sorry i should have said there were 2 James Drummonds born Whutby 1819 the one above married Ann Elder and lived in Whitby my James married in 1845 in Sunderland to Mary Greenwell but age at marriage was just stated as " full age"so i do not know for sure his age thats why i needed to check the 1811 & 1812 births
Thanks for all your help I have tried before but never checked those earlier births

Makem, Just wondered if your Drummond tree come down to a Susan Morris b 1886 c Flyde-Blackpool by any chance.

I have not come up with a Susan Morris or a link to Blackpool
only Scotland-----Whitby-----Northeast England

Thanks for looking Makem

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