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william holman son of john and mary holman

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R

R Report 3 Aug 2012 07:47

William Holman of Truro Cornwall, Born around 1831.
WIlliam died In Waverley Nsw Australia in 1894.
Married Harriet Frost 1868
Married Lizzie Moore 1888
His death and marriage certificate from Australia show his parents as being John and Mary Holman from Truro Cornwall. Marys maiden name is also listed as Holman.
I am stuck at William and am rying to obtain his DOB and likewise further details on his parents.

Any info greatly appreciated. He was a miner here in Australia.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 3 Aug 2012 08:54

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/

(not seeing him on above, a google search of his name, seems to bring up other queries for him)

Chris :)

Reggie

Reggie Report 3 Aug 2012 09:01

Actual DOB is unlikely to be obtainable

You may find a baptism if you look on the IGI

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp

Were both of his marriages in Australia?

Does his marriage cert include info about his father's occupation?

Do you know when William arrived in Australia?

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 3 Aug 2012 09:13

Have you tried www.bmdregisters.co.uk for non-conformist baptisms?

Although it is subscription or pay-to-view you can make a free search.

They hold the "Register of Births and Baptisms at Redruth Wesleyan Chapel in the parish of Redruth, Cornwall from 1803 to 1837".

Redruth is only about 8 miles from Truro.

Just in case you hadn't realised, civil registration didn't come into effect in England/Wales until the Sept quarter of 1837. Even then birth registration wasn't compulsary for another 50 years or so.

Flip

Flip Report 3 Aug 2012 09:31

There are 2 William Holman's arriving in NSW in 1854 on the Lady Ann, both are miners from Cornwall. 1 arrived 3/10/1854, it gives parents as James & Elizabeth, this is the other:

William Holman
Birth Year: abt 1833
Age: 21
Gender: Male
Arrival Date: 29 Sep 1854
Vessel Name: Lady Ann
Origin Location: Penzance, Cornwall, England

No parents are given, but he was from what looks like Perran, which I think is near Truro.

Flip

Flip Report 3 Aug 2012 09:36

This may be him, but no father on census in 1841:

William Holman
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Gender: Male
Where born: Cornwall, England

Civil parish: Perran Arworthal
Hundred: Kerrier
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Falmouth
Sub-registration district: Mylor
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 138
Book: 11
Folio: 46
Page Number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Holman 30
Richard Holman 10
Elen Holman 7
William Holman 5


Vera

Vera Report 3 Aug 2012 09:42

Ref the family Flip found

1851
HOLMAN, Mary Ann Head Married F 45 1806 House Keeper
Perranarwthl, Cornwall VIEW
HOLMAN, Richard Son Unmarried M 22 1829 Labr
Kenwyn, Cornwall VIEW
HOLMAN, E H Daughter Unmarried F 17 1834 Assistant At Home
Kenwyn, Cornwall VIEW
HOLMAN, William Son Unmarried M 15 1836 Mason's Boy
Kenwyn, Cornwall VIEW
HOLMAN, James Son Unmarried M 5 1846 Scholar
Perranarworl, Cornwall VIEW
Piece: 1911
Folio: 43
Page: 9
Registration District: Falmouth
Civil Parish: Perranarworthal
Municipal Borough:
Address: Greenwith Common, Perranarworthal
County: Cornwall


Regards Vera

Joy Kentish Maid

Joy Kentish Maid Report 3 Aug 2012 09:43

Having searched, I have seen several enquiries on the internet about him :)

Have you tried the OPC database for Cornwall? http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/

- ditto Chris :)

Flip

Flip Report 3 Aug 2012 09:52

Think the 1841 census I posted is the wrong one, he is still with his mother in 1861, and a stone mason employing 2 people - so unlikely to have been a miner?

R

R Report 25 Mar 2013 11:00

Thank you so much for all your help. I am still searching for William

Mike *

Mike * Report 25 Mar 2013 11:38

From a tree but would need checking


William Holman

Birth c1833 in Perranzabuloe, Cornwall, England
Death 16 March 1894 in Paddington, New South Wales, Australia

parents
John Holman1807 –
Mary Trezise1807 – 1872 ( married 1833)


1868 - Marriage to Harriet Frost
Tambaroora, New South Wales, Australia


1888 - Marriage to Elizabeth or Lizzie Moore
Paddington, New South Wales ( Grafton St Woolahra

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 25 Mar 2013 13:21

From the Sidney Morning Herald dated 17/03/1894

The friends of the late William Holman, formally of Holmann & Paxton of Hill End, are respectfully invited to attend his funeral to leave his late residence Blackpool Cottage, Ruthven Street, Waverley tomorrow Sunday at 1.00 pmfor Waverley cemetery.

And could be his son both mention Hill End

HOLMAN. September 14th 1929 at Auburn, Claude ANthony eldest son of the late Mr and Mrs William Holmam of Hill End age 47. At rest.

Flip

Flip Report 29 Mar 2013 07:20

If the tree Mike found is right, then I think this is William in 1851:

William Holman
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Holman
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Perranzabuloe, Cornwall, England

Civil parish: Kenwyn
Town: Truro
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: <<<Miner

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Truro
Sub-registration district: St Clement
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 56
Piece: 1910
Folio: 287
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
William Holman 21
Jane Holman 22
Eliza Jane Holman 10 Mo

My internet is acting up, but I found possible deaths for Eliza Jane (Dec 1851) and Jane (Sept 1852) both reg Truro. Did his first marriage in Australia give his marital status?

Flip

Flip Report 29 Mar 2013 08:22

Looking more at the immigration record for 1854, I think both records relate to the same person not 2 seperate people. That William has parents James & Elizabeth, who I think is the one I've just posted in 1851.

There is a marriage Sept.1849 for William Holman to Jane Julleff, and according to Cornwall-opc they married in Kenwyn parish and his father was James. So it looks like the tree could be wrong, and this is not your William.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 29 Mar 2013 08:23

County Cornwall
Place St Agnes
Church St Agnes the Virgin
RegisterNumber 884
MarriageDate 15 May 1832
GroomForename John
GroomSurname HOLMAN
GroomAge
GroomParish
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation Sojourner
GroomAbode
BrideForename Mary
BrideSurname TREZISE
BrideAge
BrideParish
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename
GroomFatherSurname
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename Roger
WitnessOneSurname DANIELL
WitnessTwoForename Ann
WitnessTwoSurname PARNELL
Notes 2nd witness signed with a mark

(from below link, might be worth a look round)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

(also below?)

Baptism
County Cornwall
Place Perranarworthal
Church St Piran
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 03 Mar 1833
Forename William
Sex M
FatherForename James
MotherForename Elizabeth
FatherSurname HOLMAN
MotherSurname
Abode
FatherOccupation Miner

Chris :)