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Emma Woollett I think in 1871 census comes up in Northampton as a Cook/Servant ???

Looking thru my notes I know why I didnt follow up some of the clues it was making sense up until 1881 census William Woollett died 1873 Mary Woollett became head of household thats all fine but then William Harrison appears as married but his future wife Eliza Batchelor is still single but this may explain why they didnt get married until 1919 after they had all the children he may not have been free to marry again until maybe a first wife died ???

The Maidstone parish records are on Find My Past

I can't work out where mother Emma went. :-(

I think I might pop to the cemetery and see if his birthday is on the stone as the baptism record says that his birthday is 1st June 1863 if it is it would be one more thing closer.

Yes you could be right but the baptism record looks like its him it has the father Albert and mother Emma. The thing is she may of had him in London and then gone home to Maidstone and not registered him at all. The fact Albert and Emma lived a couple of streets apart :-S. Its mostly coincidences. I wish we did what they do in Scotland and put the mothers maiden name on the death cert lol. How did you get the baptism record ??

No, don't do that! I edited my earlier post. I think that birth registry for William Albert Woollett is more likely to be for Emma's nephew. So please don't send off for the certificate on my advice.

I do think that there's a good possibility that your gt.grandfather was the William Harrison living in Maidstone though, as he was a baker and, according to his baptism record, his father was a bricklayer called Albert Harrison.

(Not married to his mother though).

As I mentioned, it was very common then for unmarried mothers to be sent elsewhere to have their babies. So William being born in Bow could still be a possibility. What made you dismiss this William Harrison when you looked at the family before?

Sorry about the delay in replying Ive been away. How do you know that the William Albert Woollett is the same as or known as William Harrison the young fella that lived with his Grandmother in the 1871 census. I have looked at this before. So you think I should get that birth cert. So are you saying that Woollett was the mothers name and he was registered as that. I have to try it i suppose. Thanks for your help.

Julie - I'd like to know what you think about the birth register of William Albert Woollett that I wrote about yesterday.

He was a baker, known as William Harrison. His father was a bricklayer named Albert Harrison. In 1881 he was living in the same town (Maidstone) as his future wife.

Unmarried mothers were often sent away to stay with friends or family to have their babies. So he may have been born in Bow.

Dropping the middle name of Albert would be understandable, as his father went on to marry another woman when William was 4 years old.

Julie, If this was my family I would splash out on the birth certificate for William Albert Harrison. (It's possible he dropped the name Albert as he didn't think much of his father).

The certificate MAY say that he was born in Bow. Though it's possible that it wouldn't be mentioned.

Edit: I meant to put - the birth certificate for William Albert Woollett

Another edit: On second thoughts, this William Albert Woollett could be a nephew of Emma. But I still think the William Albert Harrison is the right one.

Because i have the marriage cert and Eliza Ellen Batchelor is the Spinster and she is also on my grandads birth certificate

Julie, I am a bit confused - you say William married in 1919 yet he is on the 1911, etc, with Eliza. How do you know that the William who married in 1919 is the same as the one in the census?

I know William's middle name was Henry, but I'm ignoring that for the moment. And I know he was born in Bow (but his mother could have been sent away to give birth), so I'm also ignoring that.

Going back to the William Harrison who is living with his grandmother, Mary Woollett, in Maidstone on the 1881 census. Mary Woollett had a daughter, Emma, who was born c.1845. If we assume that Emma was William's mother, and that she wasn't married to the father, there's this:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about William Albert Woollett
Name: William Albert Woollett
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1864
Registration District: Maidstone
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 516

Then this:

Baptism Day:18
Baptism Month:Jun
Baptism Year:1865
Forename(s):William Albert
Surname:Harrison
Relationship:
Father's Forename:Albert
Mother's Forename:Emma
Mother's Surname:
Birth Day:1
Birth Month:Jun
Birth Year:1863
Abode:Ashford Road
Parents's Occupation:Bricklayer
Notes:
Dedication:All Saints
Place:Maidstone
County:Kent
Record Source:Maidstone All Saints baptisms 1558-1912
Kent FHS Ref:55241
Record source:Kent Baptisms

Just a possibility. But of course it doesn't tie in with everything.



Edit: Emma Woollett was living in Ashford Road in 1861

Before 1874 there was no penalty on parents if they didn't register children's births so many didn't bother. There are, however,a couple of possibles if you were feeling extravagant and wanted to see if any of these had a father called Albert who was a bricklayer:

Births Mar 1862
HARRISON William Henry St Luke 1b 661

Births Sep 1862
HARRISON William Henry Mile End 1c 504

EDIT: Just out of curiosity, what does it give for Eliza's former name(s) on Harry's birth cert?

Its been nearly a year and I still havent found any info on this one maybe someone new might have some ideas.....

Just had to check on google maps if the addresses where near each other Oh my God they are so close. Ive got to forget this its so hard to give up lol

Hi ChristinaS Thanks for your help and everyone else that had had suggestions I think this is going to be one of those that goes no further. Looking back at my notes a William Harrison is in Maidstone 1881 census living with his Grandmother Mary Woollett but this William has place of birth Maidstone I must admit I did get a bit excited when I read you found an Albert in Maidstone but soon came down when I double checked. But many thanks everyone :-D

Unfortunately, I'm guessing that, by this stage, we're not going to find a straight-forward William Harrison being born in Bow with the father, Albert Harrison - a bricklayer.

This could mean that William was born with his mother's name, and was later brought up by an Albert. But there is no William, fitting his description, who was brought up by an Albert (Harrison or otherwise).

So, maybe William's father really was Albert Harrison, but his parent's weren't married, so William was brought up by someone entirely different.

The only Albert Harrison I can find, who is a bricklayer, was born around 1842 in Maidstone.

He's on the 1861 census in Maidstone, then he marries a Lois Moor, and they move to Camberwell. They have at least six children together there.

Hi Alviegal Thanks for that any chance you can find 1881,1871 census for William Henry. How did you find it ? The different last name ? On Harrys birth certificate William Henrys job was Baker/Journeyman. His fathers name on the marriage cert is Albert Bricklayer. Julie

So this is them. He's had a fair variety of jobs!


1911 census transcription details for: 9 Lion Road Twickenham


National Archive Reference:

RG14PN6851 RG78PN341 RD128 SD2 ED18 SN313
Reg. District: Brentford
Sub District: Twickenham
Parish: Twickenham
Enum. District: 18
Address: 9 Lion Road Twickenham
County: Middlesex
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
HARRISON, Williams Henry Head Married M 48 1863 Furniture Dealer London Bow
HARRISON, Eliza Wife Married F 46 1865 Dover Kent
HARRISON, Nellie Daughter Single F 18 1893 Laundry Receiving Clark Richmond Surrey
HARRISON, Mabel Daughter Single F 16 1895 Laundry Receiving Clarke Twickenham Midx
HARRISON, Rosa Daughter Single F 13 1898 Feltham
HARRISON, George Son Single M 8 1903 Twickenham



1901 census transcription details for: 98, Colne Road, Twickenham


National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 1189
Folio: 7
Page: 6
Reg. District: Brentford
Sub District: Twickenham
Parish: Twickenham
Enum. District: 12
Ecclesiastical District: Holy Trinity
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 98, Colne Road, Twickenham
County: Middlesex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HARRISON, Eliza Wife Married F 38 1863 News Agent
Maidstone, Kent
HARRISON, Flora Daughter F 14 1887
Petersham, Surrey
HARRISON, Harry Son M 12 1889
Richmond, Surrey
HARRISON, Nellie Daughter F 8 1893
Richmond, Surrey
HARRISON, Mabel Daughter F 6 1895
Twickenham, Middlesex
HARRISON, Rose Daughter F 2 1899
Feltham, Middlesex
HARRISON, George Son M 0 (9 MOS) 1901
Twickenham, Middlesex


William H Harrison, 39, a newsagent b Bow, London has been missed out. He suffered from eye atrophy.


1891 census transcription details for: 3, Kew Road, Richmond
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 620
Folio: 55
Page: 18
Reg. District: Richmond
Sub District: Richmond
Parish: Richmond
Enum. District: 12
Ecclesiastical District: St Johns
City/Municipal Borough: Richmond
Address: 3, Kew Road, Richmond
County: Surrey
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HAMSON, William Head Married M 27 1864 Baker
Bow, Middlesex
HAMSON, Eliza Wife Married F 26 1865
Dover, Kent
HAMSON, Flora Daughter F 4 1887
Petersham, Surrey
HAMSON, Harry Son M 1 1890
Richmond, Surrey

Hi JannieAnnie He only appears on census records when he has children and is with Eliza living in Twickenham. He puts Bow as place of birth Eliza either puts Dover or Maidstone I have her family in Kent but William Henry is a right puzzle and his father Albert. I dont have any record of him in Bow so its a case of taking his word for it. Julie