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EMMA JANE BACON

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GRUNKLE

GRUNKLE Report 18 Nov 2012 00:09

I AM STILL TRYING TO FIND RECORD OF ROBER RUTTERT BAINBRIDGE 'S DEATH SEVERAL THREADS HAVE BEEN FOLLOWED WITHOUT SUCCESS HAVE CHECKED OUT ONE IN SURREY BUT AM NOT CONVINCED THAT ONE IS RETIRED MECHANICAL ENGR AND WIDOW IS EMILY BAINBRIDGE NOT EMMA AND SHE WAS STILL LIVING IN LONG DITTON WHILE EMMA JANE WAS ALIVE AND LIVING IN WORTHING AS MENTIONED IN EARLIER THREADS ROBERT WAS STILL WITH EMMA 1903/4 WHEN SON ROBERT MATTHEW WAS BORN AND NAMED AS FATHER ON ALL CHILDRENS MARRIAGE CERTS ." NOT FATHER DECEASED " NO RECORD FOUND OF DIVORCE INCONCLUSIVE RHUMORS THAT HE JOINED ARMY AS FARRIER NO EVIDENCE SO FAR ALSO RHUMOR THAT HE LEFT EMMA AND CHILDREN FOR ANOTHER WOMAN BUT NO EVIDENCE NO RECORD OF BURIAL IN WORTHING CEMETARIES
THE ROBERT RECORDED IN SURREY HAD BEEN LIVING AS MARRIED COUPLE AT LONG DITTON ADDRESS SINCE 1935 OR EARLIER SO I CARRY ON SEARCHING THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL HELP AND SUGGESTIONS

Robert

Robert Report 6 Sep 2012 08:58

if it was a still birth, the birth dosent have to be registered nor the death. I have come a cross this a lot ,in researching my family

GRUNKLE

GRUNKLE Report 6 Sep 2012 08:31

I noticed that on 1911 census Emma jane bainbridge had question number of children in marriage , answer 5 two have died
we were unaware of these births , shirley found Arthur Robert ,i don't know how but well done i now need to find the other child
the birth & death record search keeps telling me NO RECORD FOUND most annoying

Reggie

Reggie Report 5 Sep 2012 23:02

Have you not yet grasped that the man born in 1861 married TWICE?

The boy born 1883 was dumped when his father re-married.

All this is on your other thread

If you ask for help, you must - PLEASE - take notice of the info provided..........

GRUNKLE

GRUNKLE Report 5 Sep 2012 16:43

in attempt to answer a couple of queries .yes i have marriage certs for robert rutters children .and he has been named as father on all three " not father deceased "
robert was born 1861 @ tunstall lodge , burdon lane cleadon durham
father matthew bainbridge mother jane bainbridge formerly rutter they were married july 9th 1855 newcastle on tyne registry office

curiously it seems there was a robert rutter bainbridge dob 1883 His father named as robert rutter park tredwell bainbridge mother alice isabella [ Bell ] nicholson marriage 1881 sunderland this robert 's father also named matthew ???

GRUNKLE

GRUNKLE Report 16 Aug 2012 18:10

Ii have robert & emma's marriage cert dated 1891 his age 29 emma 23 his father entered as matthew bainbridge vetinary surgeon , i am pretty certain this was a little lie his father described in most census 's as gardener or laborour her father as a seaman iwill have to dig out alberts mariage cert check if father is alive or deceased thanks again for keeping my brain working

Reggie

Reggie Report 16 Aug 2012 15:12

I have the same problem........can't 'refresh' as one can with IE

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Aug 2012 15:03

What a twit it was right at the beginning !! :-(

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Aug 2012 15:02

OH BLOW I didnt see your URL must have passed it.

I am on Google Chrome and you have to reload the page which I often forget to do as still a new Chrome user

Reggie

Reggie Report 16 Aug 2012 14:44

Shirley

Virtually ALL of that is on the OTHER thread........that's why I posted the URL

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Aug 2012 13:25

1891 England Census about Mathew Bainbridge
Name: Mathew Bainbridge
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Bainbridge
Gender: Male
Where born: Cleadon, Durham, England
Civil parish: Westoe
Ecclesiastical parish: St Hilda
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address:15 Victoria Terrace

Occupation:gardener

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: Westoe
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4155
Folio: 105
Page Number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age
Mathew Bainbridge 55
Jane Bainbridge 54
Matthew Frederic Bainbridge 22
Sarah Edith G Bainbridge 20
Isabella Josephine Bainbridge 16
Minnie Tilewood 6
Clara Jane Tilewood 4
Herbert Percival Friend 17

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4155; Folio: 105; Page: 27; GSU roll: 6099265.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Aug 2012 13:18

1881 England Census about Matthew Bainbridge
Name: Matthew Bainbridge
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Bainbridge
Gender: Male
Where born: Cleadon, Durham, England
Civil parish: Monkwearmouth
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address: 17 Rothsay St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Farm Labourer
Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: Monk Wearmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5005
Folio: 111
Page Number: 95
Household Members:
Name Age
Matthew Bainbridge 46
Jane Bainbridge 45
Helena Bainbridge 21
Jane Bainbridge 17
Mary H. Bainbridge 16
Elizabeth Bainbridge 15
Ellen S. Bainbridge 14
Matthew Bainbridge 12
Sarah Bainbridge 10
Isabella Bainbridge 6
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 5005; Folio: 111; Page: 95; GSU roll: 1342205.



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1881 England Census about Robert Bainbridge
Name: Robert Bainbridge
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Apprentice
Gender: Male
Where born: Tunstall, Durham, England
Civil parish: Whitburn
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address: Cleadon
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Blacksmith
Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: Westoe
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5019
Folio: 46
Page Number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
George Brown 51
Ann Brown 48
Thomas Brown 10
Mary Jane Brown 5
Mary Dixon 75
Robert Bainbridge 19
Jacob Talbot 14

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 5019; Folio: 46; Page: 20; GSU roll: 1342209.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Aug 2012 13:13

????

Marriages Sep 1855
BAINBRIDGE Matthew Newcastle T 10b 173
RUTTER Jane Newcastle T 10b 173

1871 census
Name: Matthew Bainbridge
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Bainbridge
Gender: Male
Where born: Cleadon, Durham, England
Civil parish: Whitburn
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: Westoe
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Household schedule number: 189
Piece: 5035
Folio: 96
Page Number: 35
Household Members:
Name Age
Matthew Bainbridge 36
Jane Bainbridge 35
Christiane A Bainbridge 15
Annie Bainbridge 13
Helena Bainbridge 11
Robert R Bainbridge 9 >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Jane K Bainbridge 7
Mary H Bainbridge 6
Elizabeth Bainbridge 6
Elenor S Bainbridge 5
Matthew F Bainbridge 2
Sarah E Bainbridge 2 Months

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 5035; Folio: 96; Page: 35; GSU roll: 848494.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Aug 2012 13:04

Have you got the marriage cert which will give you his age and isi fathers name

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Aug 2012 13:04

Have you got the marriage cert which will give you his age and isi fathers name

GRUNKLE

GRUNKLE Report 16 Aug 2012 11:00

to all hanks for your help just noticed that robert was only 6 yrs older than emma in 1891 aged29 but in 1901 census his is clearly entered as 53 yrs emma is still only 33

GRUNKLE

GRUNKLE Report 16 Aug 2012 10:16

thank you all yes albert stephen was my dad died in sherbourne naval hospita dorset his sister married a charles lodge and they kept the clifton arms tarring road opposite mother at No2 brother robert matthew married 1927 mabel jane paice east preston 2b 894 died 26/03/1929 my parents married oct 1933 i must check their cert for grandfathers condition

GRUNKLE

GRUNKLE Report 16 Aug 2012 09:56

thanks emma jane was my grandmother she and robert married at broadwater parish church 21/06/1891 . daughter lillian rose birth 27/05/1895 son albert stephen bth17/09/1899 son robert matthew bth 1903 in 1911 census emma is recorded as a laundress and appears to be shareing home with 2 widows and her sons possibly daughter lillian was now working in service
i have looked at and even aquired deah certs suggested for about the most likely candidates for robertbut not even a trace of a match he was registered at birth as robert rutter bainbridge and signed marriage cert as same the" rutter" being a link to his mother jane rutterf

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Aug 2012 09:54

??
Name: Albert S Bainbridge
Birth Date: abt 1899
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1945
Age at Death: 46
Registration district: Sturminster
Inferred County: Dorset
Volume: 5a
Page: 319

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Aug 2012 09:52

cant see Rose birth but this is Albert
Albert Stephen Bainbridge
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1899
Registration district: East Preston
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 341


name: Albert Stephen Bainbridge
Medal or Award: Royal Fleet Reserve Long Service and Good Conduct Medal
Service Year: 1935-1952


Name: Albert S Bainbridge
Spouse Surname: Curtis
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1933
Registration district: East Preston
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 975
Find Spouse: Elsie Curtis


So his dad would have been quite elderly then if still alive