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Murder 1858

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Jo

Jo Report 7 Aug 2012 16:22

Is there someone,please, who has access to the newspaper archives who would look up the report of the murder of James Patrick in 1858, reported in the Ipswich area newspapers? Thomas Drane was accused of his murder.

I am hoping that the newspaper account may give some clue as to what happened to James's family.

James Patrick (1823-1858) born in Mendham, Suffolk.

Thank you, Jo

:-) :-)

Gins

Gins Report 7 Aug 2012 16:35

This is showing on GR, you can read the full artical but you need to buy credits


Bury and Norwich Post Suffolk, England
17 Aug 1858

IPSWICH
there James j Patrick, the deceased, who had been to his club, came j up. Hearing that Mr. Drane was out, and having been I with others previously ordered to watch him, Patrick took with him Bamaby's dog, and went in search. He I shortly afterwards

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 7 Aug 2012 16:38

1851:
Name: James Patrick
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Patrick
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Mendham, Suffolk, England
Civil parish: Weybread
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Hoxne
Sub-registration district: Stradbroke
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Piece: 1796
Folio: 156
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
James Patrick 28
Mary Patrick 36 born Weybread, Suffolk
James Patrick 9
William Patrick 6
George Patrick 3
John Patrick 1

1861:
Name: Mary Patrick
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Weybread, Suffolk, England
Civil parish: Weybread
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Hoxne
Sub-registration district: Stradbroke
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 126
Piece: 1152
Folio: 15
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Patrick 41
James Patrick 18
William Patrick 16
John Patrick 11
Samuel Patrick 9

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Jonesey

Jonesey Report 7 Aug 2012 16:41

1871:

Name: Willm Patrick
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Patrick
Gender: Male
Where born: Weybread, Suffolk, England
Civil parish: Hackney
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: South Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 206
Piece: 331
Folio: 88
Page Number: 40
Household Members:
Name Age
Willm Patrick 26
Sarah Patrick 25
Willm Patrick 2
Minma Patrick 6 Months

1871???
Name: Samuel Patrick
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Suffolk, England
Civil parish: Clerkenwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: St James Clerkenwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 95
Piece: 380
Folio: 11
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Corins 32
Fanny Corins 31
Charles Corins 6
Ronna F Corins 4
Samuel Patrick 19

Name: Samuel Patrick
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Spouse Name: Sarah Lebeau
Spouse Age: 26
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Nov 1877
Parish: Walworth Common
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: James Patrick
Spouse Father Name: Timothy Lebeau
Register Type: Parish Register

1881:
Name: Samuel Patrick
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Patrick
Gender: Male
Where born: Weybread, Suffolk, England
Civil parish: Tottenham
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: 2 Cyprus V
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Engineer Fitter
Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Tottenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1387
Folio: 99
Page Number: 40
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Patrick 29
Sarah Patrick 28 born Bethnal Grn, Middlesex
Mary Patrick 1


Gins

Gins Report 7 Aug 2012 16:48

1851 England Census
about Thomas Drane
Name: Thomas Drane
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Moulton, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Weybread
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

StrRegistration district: Hoxne
Sub-registration district: Stradbroke
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 21
Piece: 1796
Folio: 156
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Drane 30 <<<Farmer


Next door is Valantine Barnaby....the man with the dog maybe?

Jo

Jo Report 7 Aug 2012 17:04

Thank you for your help. :-) :-)

Gins

Gins Report 7 Aug 2012 17:42

If you want to view the full artical of the death, go to search (on here) and scroll down to British Newspapers

I say death and not murder as nothing is showing for a criminal conviction of Thos* Drane?

Type in his name and then the county and year

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alviegal

alviegal Report 9 Aug 2012 15:38

Thomas Drane was put into an asylum in Norwich as he was classed as 'a dangerous lunatic.' He killed Mr Pattrick who was 89 and a parish clerk, with an axe blow to the head.
There are lots of papers from Bangor to Huddersfield, reporting the Murder by a maniac in Suffolk.
If you join Lancashire Library online, you can read it all for yourself. I can't see anything mentioned about his family though.


http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/libraries/borrower/application_form.asp

It is free to join.

Gins

Gins Report 9 Aug 2012 16:46

Nice one Alviegal :-D

Martyn

Martyn Report 25 Feb 2013 14:45

Thank you for picking this up: James Patrick's great-granddaughteer Dorothy was my grandmother. I have a copy of his death certificate on which the ?coroner has entered 'unlawful killing by Thomas Drane' as cause of death, but had not managed to get any further.