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Trying to find grandfathers birth parents

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neil

neil Report 21 Aug 2012 14:56

Hi my name is Rita and i am helping my husband Neil to trace his family tree.
We know that his grandfather was William Pittaway born 1880 and died 1967.
William was adopted from Jersey by his aunt Louisa Fryer nee Pittaway we think he was between 4 and 10. We also know that his father was Henry Pittaway born 1849 and that he was in Cambridge Barracks in the 1871 census. We really need help to find out when and why Henry went to Jersey, did he get married if so to whom, then what happened to William's mother and Henry that meant William had to be adopted.
Hope someone can help.. Hope you read this and can help Jerseylily.

Thanks Rita :-)

Maddie

Maddie Report 21 Aug 2012 15:05

is this him 1901 census

Name: William H Pittaway
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Adopted Son
Gender: Male
Where born: Jersey, Channel Islands

Civil parish: Willenhall
Ecclesiastical parish: Willenhall St Anne
Town: Willenhall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Willenhall
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 140
Piece: 2686
Folio: 105
Page Number: 25
Household Members:
Name Age
James Ferger 55
Louisa Ferger 56
Francis Ferger 24
Arthur Ferger 21
Clara Ferger 15
Silas Ferger 16
William H Pittaway 21
Samuel J Veal

Maddie

Maddie Report 21 Aug 2012 15:07

1911 ???????????

1911 England Census about William Pittaway
Name: William Pittaway
Age in 1911: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Jersey
Civil parish: Willenhall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address: 15 Riley Street, Willenhall
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Brickmaker
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Registration District Number: 369
Sub-registration district: Willenhall
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Household schedule number: 10
Piece: 17109
Household Members:
Name Age
William Pittaway 32
Emma Pittaway 26
James Pittaway 4
Louisa Pittaway 3
Mary Ann Constable 70

safc

safc Report 21 Aug 2012 15:13

????

Groom's Name: William Herbert Pittaway
Groom's Birth Date: 1874
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 29
Bride's Name: Selina Robinson
Bride's Birth Date: 1876
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 27
Marriage Date: 15 Mar 1903
Marriage Place: Sedgley, Stafford, England
Groom's Father's Name: Henry Pittaway
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: William Guest
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M16763-6
System Origin: England-VR
Source Film Number: 1526109
Reference Number: 2:1SMCJH1

Janice

Janice Report 21 Aug 2012 15:29

For Ref:

Name: William J F Pittaway
Birth Date: abt 1880
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1967
Age at Death: 87
Registration district: Walsall
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 760

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Aug 2012 15:41

Hello Rita - there is a lady called JerseyLily who helps on here and, as her name suggests, she specialises in Jersey records. If you go to your first post and click "edit" you can amend your heading to include "Jersey" and she may spot it.

Janice

Janice Report 21 Aug 2012 15:46

This website might be useful

http://www.jerseyfamilyhistory.org/


If Henry was in the army, then he could have been doing a spell of duty on Jersey, and met his wife/partner over there.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Aug 2012 15:49

Where was Henry born?

Janice

Janice Report 21 Aug 2012 15:57

Droitwich but it keeps getting mistranscribed.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Aug 2012 16:03

Ahh.........got him then.

1871 England Census
about Henry Pettaway
Name: Henry Pettaway
[Henry Pittaway]
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Gender: Male
Where born: Drortwick, Worcestershire, England
Civil parish: Portsmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Portsmouth Town
ED, institution, or vessel: Cambridge Barracks

Henry Pittaway .....unmarried 21 Private.

safc

safc Report 21 Aug 2012 16:12

????

Name: Henry Pittaway
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 04 Dec 1848
Baptism/Christening Place: ST ANDREW,DROITWICH,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Benjamin Pittaway
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02346-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 354318, 354319
Reference Number:

jerseylily

jerseylily Report 22 Aug 2012 13:55

I have been looking through the Jersey birth indexes but no luck so far. The parishes that I have checked I've also searched for just christian names, William Joshua Francis is quite a mouthful so should stand out.

I won't be able to look again until next week - family arriving for a visit later today.

Mary

Mary Report 22 Aug 2012 15:17

Tree on Ancestry states William Henry Pittaway and Elizabeth Mary le Boutillier had 2 daughters Alice, Sarah and William Joshua Francis Pittaway 20/6/1879 - 19/2/1967 married Emma Parker 29/7/1906 and had 8 children.

Don't know how correct this info is but no dates or place of birth for parents or where William Joshua was born.
Although I think the Boutillier could be from Jersey!!

Maryb.

jerseylily

jerseylily Report 22 Aug 2012 15:46

That's interesting I'll follow it up next week. The name should be Le Boutillier, a very common local name.

If William and Elizabeth did marry the likelihood is that it was in Jersey.

Mary

Mary Report 22 Aug 2012 16:17

1901 Jersey
Elias Gallichan 1827 jersey
Elizabeth Gallichan 1859 Jersey
Alice M Pittaway Jersey 1885
Sarah J Pittaway born 1887 at sea.

1911 Elias Gallichan
E M Gallichan. (Elizabeth Mary Le Boutillier ??)

Maryb.

neil

neil Report 22 Aug 2012 16:51

from Rita
Thank you to everyone helping me Elizabeth Mary le Boutillier is definately our relation. We would dearly like to find out what happened to her and to Henry. Also then what became of the 3 children William Pittaway we know was adopted in Wolverhampton what about Alice born 1885 and Sarah J born 1887? please keep digging for me my new friends. Thanks again. Rita

Janice

Janice Report 22 Aug 2012 17:49

Here's William Henry Pittaway in Wolverhampton in 1891 aged 11 described as nephew.

Name: Wm Hy Pettway
[Wm Hy Pittaway]
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Jersey, Channel Islands

Civil parish: Willenhall
Ecclesiastical parish: St Ann
Town: Willenhall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Willenhall
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page

James Fryer 45
Louisa Fryer 46
Willm Geore Fryer 20
Sarah Fryer 18
Francis Fryer 14
Arthur Fryer 11
Clara Fryer 8
Silas Fryer 6
Wm Hy Pettway 11


ADDED - this is the same family which has been mistranscribed as ferger above in 1901 where Wm Hy is now adopted son.

Janice

Janice Report 22 Aug 2012 20:08

Hi Rita,

The person who submitted the Ferger/Fryer correction is called Jeanne. Does that name mean anything to you?

Janice

Janice Report 22 Aug 2012 20:30

Louisa seems to be a saint! In 1911 she is a widow and has a widowed daughter in law and a grandson living with her. Grandson was there in 1901 so looks like she brought him up too!

Name: Louisa Fryer
Age in 1911: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Droitwich, Worcestershire
Civil parish: Willenhall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address: 15 Cross St, Spring Bank, Willenhall
Marital Status: Widowed
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Registration District Number: 369
Sub-registration district: Willenhall

Louisa Fryer 66
Arthur Fryer 31
Sarah Jane Fryer 35
Samuel James Veil 14 (should be Veal)

ADDED - Samuel's mum died in 1900

neil

neil Report 22 Aug 2012 21:12

thanks for the update Janice