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Florence Mary Johnson

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Susan

Susan Report 22 Aug 2012 18:11

Florence Mary Johnson born 7.2.1902 - Sheffield
married 25/12/1927 - Sheffield
Arthur Palmer born 21.4.1903

trying to trace their ancestors

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 22 Aug 2012 18:15

Ideally you will need a copy of their marriage certificate to see what is shown as their fathers details,

Just a possibility as Arthur would have still have been 7 years old when the 1911 census was taken:

1911:
Name: Arthur Palmer
Age in 1911: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1904
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Darnall, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Sheffield
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street Address: 27 James St Darnall Sheffield
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: School
Registration district: Sheffield
Registration District Number: 510
Sub-registration district: Attercliffe
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Piece: 28014
Household Members:
Name Age
William Palmer 45
Forence Palmer 42
William Thomas Palmer 23
George Palmer 19
Bower Palmer 15
Walter Palmer 14
Lillian Palmer 11
Arthur Palmer 7
Florence Palmer 3

1911:
Name: Florence Mary Johnson
Age in 1911: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Relation to Head: Sister-in-law
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Sheffield
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street Address: 71 Uttley St Attercliffe Sheffield
Registration district: Sheffield
Registration District Number: 510
Sub-registration district: Attercliffe
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Piece: 28010
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Henry Shipley 24
Ann Elizabeth Shipley 24
Joseph William Shipley 3
Clara Henretta Shipley 1
Ethel May Shipley Under 1/12
Florence Mary Johnson 9

Here is Ann Elizabeth Johnson prior to her marriage to Joseph Henry Shipley. It is a reasonable assumption that her parents were Florence Mary's parents also.

1901:
Name: Ann E Johnson
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William H Johnson
Mother's Name: Clara Johnson
Gender: Female
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Brightside Bierlow
Ecclesiastical parish: Attercliffe Emmanuel
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Sheffield
Sub-registration district: East Brightside
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 14
Piece: 4379
Folio: 159
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
William H Johnson 39 born Sheffield
Clara Johnson 32 born Sheffield
Ann E Johnson 14
Daord Johnson 12
Charles E Johnson 7
Joseph Johnson 5
Helenor Johnson 3
Harry Johnson 1
Henry Cliffe 26
Elizabeth A Brooms 29
Arthur Brooms 5
Herbert Brooms 8 Months

Here are the parents in 1911:


Name: William Henry Johnson
Age in 1911: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Sheffield
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street Address: 107 Coleford Road Darnall Sheffield
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: General Labourer
Registration district: Sheffield
Registration District Number: 510
Sub-registration district: Attercliffe
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Piece: 28009
Household Members:
Name Age
William Henry Johnson 49
Clara Johnson 43
David Johnson 22
Charles Edmund Johnson 17
Joseph Johnson 15
Eleanor Johnson 13
Harry Johnson 11
George Johnson 6
Henry Cliff 36

As always a copy of a child's birth certificate is the most sure way of discovering who the child's parents were.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Aug 2012 19:07

There is an unsourced and undocumented tree on Ancestry that has her parents as:

William Henry Johnson 1862 - 1947
Clara Firth 1868 - 1933

plus 9 siblings.

Need certificate to verify.

Susan

Susan Report 22 Aug 2012 19:18

Thank you for your help - I am not sure of their wedding date but will check whether it is 25/12/1926 or 25/12/1927

Susan

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Aug 2012 19:29

Looks like it was 1926:

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1926
Johnson Florence M Palmer Sheffield 9c 838
Palmer Arthur Johnson Sheffield 9c 838

Just seen that there's another tree on Ancestry has her father as John Samuel Johnson.

Susan

Susan Report 24 Aug 2012 19:51

thank you for this information - i've just seen the same tree on Ancestry showing her father as John Samuel Johnson mother listed as Margaret?

I will see if I can get more information from the living rellis.

Susan

Susan

Susan Report 5 Sep 2012 16:11

Have contacted Ancestry Tree owner - this has a typing error on it - it is a different one it should have read Florence Marie Johnson.

thanks for your help

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 5 Sep 2012 16:57

So if you haven't already ordered that marriage cert, you'll need it to move back.

Susan

Susan Report 11 Dec 2012 16:37

Thank you all for your help you have given me in 2012 and I wish you all a merry Christmas and New Year


Susan