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julieann45

julieann45 Report 7 Sep 2012 18:14

Hi

Can you help? I try give you as much info i can. My GG-Grandparents George Richard Gladwin b 1858 Norwood croydon Died 1908 croydon surrey.. And wife Harriet Ann Gladwin nee' Cooper b 1860 Born fulham. Died 1931 Croydon. They are a Gypsy family. They had 13 children. So i'm trying to find info on daughter Dorothy Lousie Gladwin.or name could be Lousie Dorothy. Born 1881 Kent? in a tent? Died 1983 maybe Battersea London. She married ? A Wallace Sharpless. Dorothy was in wilford Road west croydon in the 1930s?

Trying to find date of birth/Death of Husband. And how many children they had? Well! what info you have of Dorothy and Wallace.

Andrew

Andrew Report 7 Sep 2012 18:22

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Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1924 (>99%)
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GLADWIN Dorothy M Sharpless Croydon 2a 663
Sharpless Wallace P Gladwin Croydon 2a 663


Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 7 Sep 2012 18:24

Wallace Sharpless in Wilford Road 1911

1911 England Census
about Wallace Sharpless
Name: Wallace Sharpless
Age in 1911: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Croydon
Civil parish: Croydon
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address: 50 Wilford Rd
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 4
Estimated Marriage Year: 1907
Occupation: Marine Store
Registration district: Croydon
Registration District Number: 39
Sub-registration district: West Croydon
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Household schedule number: 199
Piece: 3343
Household Members: Name Age
Wallace Sharpless 24
Mabel Sharpless 22
Thomas Wallace Sharpless


Andy

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 7 Sep 2012 18:25

These are the only census' I could find for a Wallace Sharpness. His wife in 1911 is shown as Mabel. May or may not link into your Sharpness family at some poing but posted for info.

1891 Census Household Record

Household Information
Address 30, Selhurst New Road
Parish Croydon
District Croydon, Croydon
Administrative County Surrey
Householder 1
Name William Sharpless
Age 40
Estimated Year of Birth 1851
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation General Labourer
Birth Place Leicester
Birth County
Householder 2
Name Jane Sharpless
Age 35
Estimated Year of Birth 1856
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Scotland
Birth County
Householder 3
Name Mary J Sharpless
Age 13
Estimated Year of Birth 1878
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Scotland
Birth County
Householder 4
Name James Sharpless
Age 12
Estimated Year of Birth 1879
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Croydon
Birth County Surrey
Householder 5
Name William Sharpless
Age 11
Estimated Year of Birth 1880
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Croydon
Birth County Surrey
Householder 6
Name Alice Sharpless
Age 9
Estimated Year of Birth 1882
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Croydon
Birth County Surrey
Householder 7
Name George Sharpless
Age 7
Estimated Year of Birth 1884
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Croydon
Birth County Surrey
Householder 8
Name Wallace Sharpless
Age 5
Estimated Year of Birth 1886
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Croydon
Birth County Surrey
Householder 9
Name Matthew Sharpless
Age 2
Estimated Year of Birth 1889
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Croydon
Birth County

1911 Census Household Record

Household information
Address 50 Wilfred Road
Parish Croydon
Type of Building Tenement
Number of Rooms 1 Kitchen
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN3343 RG78PN126 RD39 SD3 ED21 SN199
Administrative County Surrey
Registration District Croydon
Registration Sub District West Croydon
Enumeration District 21
Householder 1
Name Wallace Sharpless
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Condition / Years Married Married
Gender M
Age 24
Estimated Year of Birth 1887
Occupation Marine Store Dealer
Employed Y
Working at Home Y
Place of Birth Croydon
Nationality English
Householder 2
Name Mabel Sharpless
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Condition / Years Married Married / 4 Years
Total Children Born Alive 1
Children Still Living 1
Children Who Have Died 0
Gender F
Age 22
Estimated Year of Birth 1889
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Surry
Householder 3
Name Thomas Wallace Sharpless
Relationship to Head of Household Child
Condition / Years Married Married
Gender M
Age 28 Months
Estimated Year of Birth 1909
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth London
Nationality English

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 7 Sep 2012 18:25

Marriage Record Name Dorothy M Gladwin
Year of Marriage 1924
Quarter of Marriage Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District Croydon
Registration County Surrey
Spouse's Surname Sharpless
Volume Number 2A
Volume Page 663

Spouse Match: Dorothy M GLADWIN married Wallace P SHARPLESS

Name Wallace P Sharpless
Year of Marriage 1924
Quarter of Marriage Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District Croydon
Registration County Surrey
Spouse's Surname Gladwin
Volume Number 2A
Volume Page 663

julieann45

julieann45 Report 7 Sep 2012 18:26

thanks. Any info if Dorothy was born? and Wallace? And any children?

julieann45

julieann45 Report 7 Sep 2012 18:27

Wonderful Thank-you

jax

jax Report 7 Sep 2012 18:27

Have you searched freebmd for any children?

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

looks like they had at least 10 or maybe 12

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 7 Sep 2012 18:27

Births Dec 1929 (>99%)
Sharpless Wallace P G R Gladwin Croydon 2a 523

Looks like he has given this child a growing list of second names :-D

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 7 Sep 2012 18:29

Birth Record Name Jane H M Sharpless
Year of Registration 1926
Quarter of Registration Apr-May-Jun
Registration District Croydon
Registration County Surrey
Mother's maiden name Gladwin
Volume Number 2A
Volume Page 457

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 7 Sep 2012 18:30

You have put a question mark to suggest you are not sure if she married Wallace Sharpness or not.

Do you have the marriage cert to be certain the marriage we have found is the correct one?

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 7 Sep 2012 18:31

Birth Record Name Kathleen H Sharpless
Year of Registration 1928
Quarter of Registration Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District Croydon
Registration County Surrey
Mother's maiden name Gladwin
Volume Number 2A
Volume Page 570

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 7 Sep 2012 18:34

Possible birth for Wallace and a possible earlier marriage

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Births Sep 1886 (>99%)
Sharpless Wallace Croydon 2a 249

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%)
JACK Robert Croydon 2a 699
Mitchell Gussie L Croydon 2a 699
Sharpless Wallace Croydon 2a 699
Tobin Amelia M Croydon 2a 699

julieann45

julieann45 Report 7 Sep 2012 18:34

Hi JustDonosaurjill

I have no marriage cert... Thanks to all. Ps some ask if i looked on freeBMB No i have not.but will

jax

jax Report 7 Sep 2012 18:34

These people could still be living so you can find them easily on freebmd

julieann45

julieann45 Report 7 Sep 2012 18:36

Hi jax

I will look on Freebmd.. thank-you and to all

julie

Mary

Mary Report 7 Sep 2012 19:53

Up to 1961 Wallace P Sharpless and Dorothy M were at 30,Longhedge St Wandsworth Battersea.

Dorothy Louise M Sharpless born @ 1904 died 1983 Wandsworth.
Wallace Paterick Sharpless 4/7/1904 died 1981 Lambeth V14 0015

So this is the couple who married 1924?

Maryb

jax

jax Report 7 Sep 2012 20:04

It looks like there are a few people who have the Sharpless family in their tree on here

Mary

Mary Report 7 Sep 2012 21:28

1891 25 Wilford Road
George Gladwin hawker born 1858 Norwood
Harriett wife
Linda born Mitchum surrey 1880 (Leander)

1881 they were in a tent on Mitchum Common.

I think you have got the birth of Dorothy way out.

A tree on Ancestry.co.uk states George and Harriet had Dorothy/Louise @1905.

Lots of info on Google gor Romany families.

Maryb

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 7 Sep 2012 21:35

I can't find her birth in FreeBMD 1905 or either side of it.