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Hi Allan, nice to hear from you again.

Happy New year and let us know if we can help further

All I can say is THANKYOU. All of this is amazingly valuable. i am eternally grateful for all the work you have done for me. Our family is slowly being reunited at last in spirit.

Allan D

It's been a pleasure Allan!

But don't ever close an avenue off - you never know when something comes up that might be of interest. ;-)

good morning to all you fantastic researchers. marieCeleste yoiu are correct in your updated arrivalm data in US. I have other stuff which agrees. I never had the naturalisation papers for Mary and the marriage to Travers was unknown to me. pity the daughter Mary Travers was not the singer!!.

i am now signing off from this investigation as it is as complete as I ever wanted. with the help of various community board devotees, eg, Kay, Carol, Ginny, and those in in this latest investigation I have documentary evidence of my wifes family as tenant farners in Co Leitrim back to 1798 and forward to US citizens in the 1930 US census and closer to me here in South Africa via our UK origins. you are all wonderful people and I hpe you continue to help others as you have done for me.
Allan

You're very welcome Allen, do come back when you've had a chance to digest.

Not sure I understand ???"destination"???

I did delete an immigration record for Maggie that I'd posted which was wrong- was it in that?

this is all way beyond my wildest dreams. you have achieved in 1/2 a day what we have been looking for in several years. I am in South Africa and have just come in from a Rotary meeting and even though by UK standards it is still early, I am tired and need to have time to absorb all of this. I will now print it out and sit in a comfortable arm chair and study it all. thank you so much for all your help. Allan.
ps I do not understand your comment in the last line. ???"destination"???

Allan

Possible 1930 for Maggie:


1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Margaret Scollan
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1912
Birthplace: Ireland
Race: White
Home in 1930: Brooklyn, Kings, New York
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Marital Status: Single
Immigration Year: 1929
Relation to Head of House: Maid
Father's Birthplace: Ireland
Mother's Birthplace: Ireland
Occupation:
Education:
Military Service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace:

Household Members:
Name Age
William Mahar 32
Marie Mahar 31
Marie Mahar 6
Jean Mahar 5
William Mahar 1
Margaret Scollan 18

Maggie's arrival in US:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Maggie Scollan
Arrival Date: 5 Mar 1929
Birth Year: abt 1911
Birth Location: Ireland
Birth Location Other: glenfarne
Age: 18
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Irish
Port of Departure: Londonderry
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Cameronia

A domestic, had resided Manorhamilton. Also going to uncle Patrick Cullen. Gives her step-mother as Bridget KEANY, Carrickrevagh.

(It looks as though she'd been booked on a ship the year before but hadn't travelled)

Have deleted an earlier arrival I posted for Mary, which I now think is wrong. This is the correct one and matches her naturalisation:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Mary Scallan
Arrival Date: 16 Jan 1926
Birth Year: abt 1909
Birth Location: Ireland
Birth Location Other: glenfarne
Age: 17
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Irish
Port of Departure: Londonderry
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Cameronia

She's a domestic and her next of kin (Bridget Scollan) and destination (Patrick Cullen) is the same as for James' 1927 arrival.

I think this may be them in 1940 (Molly can be a nickname for Mary):

1940 United States Federal Census

Name: John Travers
Respondent: Yes
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1908
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Eire
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: New York, Bronx, New York
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Street: Taylor Avenue
House Number: 1618
Inferred Residence in 1935: New York, Bronx, New York
Residence in 1935: Same Place
Citizenship: Having first papers
Sheet Number: 10B
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 308
Neighbors:

Household Members:
Name Age
John Travers 32 - apartment superintendant
Molly Travers 31 - hospital nurse
Mary Travers 7

Mary and new husband in 1930:

1930 United States Federal Census about Mary Travers
Name: Mary Travers
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1908
Birthplace: Ireland Free State
Race: White
Home in 1930: Manhattan, New York, New York

Marital Status: Married
Immigration Year: 1926
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Travers
Father's Birthplace: Ireland Free State
Mother's Birthplace: Ireland
Occupation:
Education:
Military Service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage: 21
Parents' birthplace: Ireland
Neighbors:

Household Members:
Name Age
John Travers 22 - Shipping clerk in a laundry
Mary Travers 22

This looks like Mary's naturalisation:

Selected U.S. Naturalization Records - Original Documents, 1790-1974
Name: Mary Travers [Mary Scollan]
State: New York
Court Type: District Court
Court Location: Southern District, New York
Naturalization Record Type: Petition for Naturalization
Naturalization Record Number: 412275

She was born Mary Scollan 18 July 1908 in Leitrim.
She arrived in USA 16 January 1926 on SS Laconia.
Married her husband John Travers 04 February 1929 in New York. (He was born 15 May 1907 in Leitrim).
Their daughter Mary was born 22 November 1932 in New York.

Think this is him in 1940:

1940 United States Federal Census
Name: James Scallan
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Eire
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: New York, Bronx, New York
Street: Grand Avenue
Farm: No
Inferred Residence in 1935: New York, Bronx, New York
Residence in 1935: Same Place, Bronx
Citizenship: Naturalized
Sheet Number: 9A
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 200
Neighbors:

Household Members:
Name Age
James Scallan 30 - Carpet Layer in department store.
Rose Scallan 28

His arrival:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: James Scollan
Arrival Date: 8 Mar 1927
Birth Year: abt 1910
Birth Location: Ireland
Birth Location Other: glenfarne co leitrim
Age: 17
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Irish
Port of Departure: Londonderry
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Cameronia

His nok in Ireland was his aunt Mrs Catherine Leonard, Carrickrevagh, Glenfarne, Leitrim. He was a farm labourer.

He was joining his uncle Mr Patrick Cullen (that must be his stepmother's brother) at 146 West 64th Street, New York.

The year on this death is 1 out, but the date is the same:

Social Security Death Index
Name: James Scollan
SSN: 068-09-3739
Born: 16 Jul 1909
Died: Sep 1960
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)

So that's James Scollan born 1909 that we're looking for in the US .....

When was his application for residence?

EDIT: Found it

Selected U.S. Naturalization Records - Original Documents, 1790-1974
Name: James Scollan
State: New York
Court Type: District Court
Court Location: Southern District, New York
Naturalization Record Type: Petition for Naturalization
Naturalization Record Number: 197216

Carpetcutter, living 11428 Leland Ave, Bronx.
Born July 16 1908, Leitrim
Arrived USA 8 March 1927 on the Cameronia
Not married at this time.

He must be on a census somewhere ....

While I was typing the above, more came in and I repeat my thanks to you all.
Allan.

All I have to do now is find the Scollans in USA. I do have James's application for residence. He was in New york at the time and was a carpet layer.
Allan

these are all fantastic aids to the search for our family history. She died of "melancholia two years" and "paralysis six months" "certified". the informant was J Mckenna (I think) "occupier" Workhouse Manorhamilton on 28 November 1906.
MarieCeleste, you are correct with the family names., Mary, James, and Maggie then emigrated to USA in the late 1920's. (oh I wish I could find their descendants!) Owen (9) was my wifes father,and here there was a complication which caused us much consternation, my wifes maiden is Scallon and not Scollan. a lesson in not believing the spellings which are being used!
Peter thanks for the info about the hospital possibility. I thought the Workhouses were only for those destitute.
Rootgatherer thanks for the website. i had not seen that one. Allan

Nah, Rootie - far too valuable to me, off to give it a rub.

Yes, well done MarieCeleste. You should hire out that crystal ball!