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This is the trip back to Canada, just to pad the details out:

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935

Name: Richard McCormick
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903
Birth Country: England
Date of Arrival: 14 Apr 1928
Vessel: Minnedosa
Port of Arrival: St John, New Brunswick
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-14852

He was a labourer, born Liverpool. "Wife" Ida age 22 born Birkenhead. Daughter Ida age 1 born Liverpool.

States previously in Canada 1923/4 in Toronto.

This time was headed to Toronto again to a CPR Land Settlement. Appears they were on some sort of assisted passage.

There is also a stamp next to each of their names with the word "detained".

So sorry..i'm such a dope..thank you so much for your trouble

as you can see, he went to Canada in 1928, with wife Ida and daughter Ida


and he returned in 1933, with Ida, daughter Ida and son William

I've pulled all the sailings that we found together into one post for you ....... you could of course have done this for yourself.


But arranged in date order, it does make more sense than rolling through several posts.


Date of departure: 27 April 1923
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: Quebec, Canada

Date of Arrival: 1923
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England


Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 14 Nov 1924
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England


Date of departure: 3 April 1928
Port of departure: Liverpool
Destination port: Saint John NB

with Ida MCCORMICH (age 22) and Ida MCCORMICH (age 1)


Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 27 May 1933
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England

with Wife Ida – 27, Ida – 6 and William 2




sylvia

It works out that richard went to Canada in 1923 and returned in 1924.
He also returned from Canada in 1930 with wife and children but I can't find out what year (in between 1924 and 1930) that he went to Canada for the second time.
I wondered if he travelled out the second time with a wife or married in Canada?

Thanks for all the help everyone.

Morning

Can anyone find out if Ida (the mum) was born in Canada and would be grateful for any birth cert info on the two kids aswell..

Any info at all.

Thanks
Holt

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Holt ................


it's about half way down page 1


I've copied it over for you


GlitterBaby Report 25 Sep 2012 21:08

Name: Richard Mccormick
Birth Date: abt 1903
Age: 30
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 27 May 1933
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Montreal
Ship Name: Duchess of Richmond
Search Ship Database: View the 'Duchess of Richmond' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific
Official Number: 160631




Wife Ida – 27, Ida – 6 and William 2

Same address as 1924 but occupation of farmer

That birth registration that Choccy found, suggests that mother's maiden name was JONES

I can't seem to find what GB found..where do I look Sylvia?

BUT ......... GB found Richard, Ida, Ida and William returning tot he UK in 1933


so that shows that Ida did not die in Canada.

Thank you all..you are so kind to help me out like this.
Richard...father
Ida E.....daughter Betty
William...son (dad)

There was a story that their mum died out there...must be true

Thanks

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Births Jun 1927 (>99%)
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McCormick Ida E Jones W.Derby 8b 642

even if Ida and Richard did not marry ....... they could have said they were .............. and she could then have travelled under his name.



I know of someone who travelled to Australia around 1960, under the £10 scheme.

She said she was married to the father of the youngest 2 children, AND that the eldest had been officially adopted (nope!).

They did marry at some point after arrival.

It was discovered over 40 years later ..... and all people involved could have been expelled from the country. Fortunately, some bureaucrat was nice.




But they obviously did not have to present a marriage certificate as proof.


If this did not happen then, it was much less likely to have to be shown in the 1930s.

McCORMICK on original


Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960

Name: Richard MCCORMICH
Date of departure: 3 April 1928
Port of departure: Liverpool
Destination port: Saint John NB
Destination country: Canada

Date of Birth: 1903 (calculated from age)
Age: 25
Marital Status: Married
Sex: Male
Occupation: Farming
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 7 of 20

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The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -


Ida MCCORMICH (age 22)

Ida MCCORMICH (age 1)


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Ship: MINNEDOSA
Official Number: 142717
Master's name: Capt Dott
Steamship Line: Canadian Pacific
Where bound: Saint John NB, Canada
Square feet:
Registered tonnage: 8521
Passengers on voyage: 520


UK address - 62 Cherry Lane, Walton, Liverpool

Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924
Name: Richard Norman McCormick
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903
Birth Place: Liverpool, England
Age: 20
Single
Date of Arrival: 1923
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Montrose

(next of kin as William John McCormick, 62, Cherry Lane, Walton, Liverpool)

Chris :)

Unfortunately she is McCormick on 1933 trip back to UK

Does Ida have a different surname?

I am i little confused now so should give you all details.
Apparentely my father was born in Canada (William James McCormick dob..1930 and his sister Elizabeth dob...1928) but their father Richard Norman and mother were never married (we were told?).
She is supposed to have died and he returned to England with the children. My father always claimed he returned when he was & 7 yrs old.
It's quite difficult as we don't know their mothers name and dad
has alzeimers now.