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Edward Owen or Owens

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Junette Report 29 Sep 2012 14:30

I am looking for relatives of Edward Owen 1841 from Trefeglwys. His first wife was Anne ? they had four children the youngest called John. The second marriage was to Jane (Evans?). Their children were Sarah Jane 1888, Thomas 1889, Rachel 1891, William 1894. Alfred 1896. Evan 1898 and Elizabeth 1901.
I have information on Sarah and Rachel, but would like to trace living relatives connected to other members of the family. All help very welcome.


patchem Report 29 Sep 2012 14:39

Have you got any of the childrens' birth certificates, so you can confirm the maiden name(s) of their Mother(s)?
Have you got all the family in the 1911 census?
Have you looked on here to see if anyone has any of them in their trees?


Gins Report 29 Sep 2012 14:45

For ref

1901 Wales Census
about Edward Owens
Name: Edward Owens
Age in 1901: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Owens
Gender: Male
Where born: Llanwnnog, Montgomeryshire, Wales

Civil parish: Llanwnnog
Ecclesiastical parish: Llanwnnog
County/Island: Montgomeryshire
Country: Wales

Registration district: Newton
Sub-registration district: Llanwnog
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 8
Piece: 5194
Folio: 75
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Owens 59
Jane Owens 37
Sarah Jane Owens 14
Rachel Owens 10
William Owens 7
Alfred Owens 5
Evan Owens 3
Elizabeth Owens 8 Months
Thomas Owens 12


Gins Report 29 Sep 2012 14:55

There are only three possible marriages from 1881 - 1901

Marriages Jun 1886

EVANS Jane Newtown 11b 269
OWEN Edward Newtown 11b 269

When did his first wife die?

Which is the correct birth for the daughter? When and where was his son 'John' born please

Births Dec 1888
OWEN Sarah Jane Newtown 11b 161

Births Jun 1887
Owen Sarah Jane Newtown 11b 165


Junette Report 30 Sep 2012 23:27

Thank you for your replies. I have found Sarah Jane on the 1891, 1901 and the 1911 census data. She was 4 in 1891, 14 and 25 in 1911 any suggestions why? We are trying to get a birth certificate from my husbands cousin, but we think she was born in 1887?
I have the copy of 11b 269 marriage certificate, but again the ages do not match census data, which makes me think I have made a mistake!!!

On the 1891 census Edward and Jane have 2 visitors staying Sarah Evans 31 and Thomas Evans 5 I noted Thomas was born in the union. I have tried finding Sarah and Jane on earlier data, but so far have not found them!!

Please send more thoughts my way.


Gins Report 1 Oct 2012 07:24

Ages do differ on the census returns, thats quite 'normal'

You need to get certificates to check the details but the fact that there are visitors with the name 'Evans' with the family on 1891, would suggest that they are relations of Jane.................see the possible marriage I posted earlier on the thread


Junette Report 1 Oct 2012 09:21

Thank you Gins. I have a copy of the marriage certificate which gives Jane Evans as a spinster aged 38 yet on the 1891 census Jane is 30. Edward is aged 40 on the marriage certificate and a widower. In 1891 he is 50 on the census. I have tried finding Jane's father David Evans farmer in Trefeglwys at Argoed, but no luck and with very little time. I have not found him yet!!!


Junette Report 3 Apr 2013 18:52

Trying to find Edwina (Known in school as Edwina) Owens born 1930-1933 in Trefeglwys would be Edwards great grandaughter . All help most welcome.


patchem Report 5 Apr 2013 17:30

As you have probably realised, there does not appear to be a birth for her.
If Edwina was her middle name, do you know what other name she had?
Could she have moved to Trefeglwys as a young child?
Do you know who her parents were?

The only marriage in Wales that I can see is not until 1969 (makes her relatively old) and in Anglesey.


Junette Report 12 Apr 2013 23:23

I have found her. She was Margaret Edwina born 1931. No fathers name. How could I find out if the father had a court order to maintain her?

Many thanks