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Charles David Llewellyn - A Will Update!

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Flip

Flip Report 13 Oct 2012 08:16

Had a look for Beatrice in 1901 to see if she was in Bristol, but think this is her with older sister (there's a birth for Mary Martha Matthias in Newport 1869) - so no lead on the Bristol connection from this:

Beatrice Mathias
Age in 1901: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil parish: Christchurch
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Caerleon
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Newport (Monmouthshire)
Sub-registration district: Caerleon
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 38
Piece: 4953
Folio: 112
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Martha Jones 30 <<Maternity nurse, born Newport
Gwendoline Jones 10
Beatrice Mathias 27 << Sick nurse, b Newport
Charlotte Morgan 36

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 13 Oct 2012 08:34

Yes that is the census I have for Beatrice. I have not got a Mary Martha - but I do have a Polly who appears in 1881 aged 11 about whom I have nothing before or after! Perhaps I'll have a play later. I found number 78 in 1911 census but haven't managed to even find Islington Street in 1901!

Jude

Flip

Flip Report 13 Oct 2012 08:50

It's Islington Road, not street - it's on FMP, just put in the street name but no other search options.

Not sure, but there's a marriage for Beatrice Ann Matthias to Thomas Chadwick in Salford, Lancs in 1908 - can only see one other birth for Beatrice Ann, in Hull but that one died as an infant. So it may be her, "up north" Haven't found the couple on 1911 census though.

Mary Martha's marriage, Polly could just be a nickname:

Marriages Sep 1888 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Gunter Paulina Newport M 11a 321
Jones Thomas Alfred Newport, M. 11a 321 <<<
Mathias Mary Martha Newport,M. 11a 321 <<<
Walter Philip Newport M 11a 321

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 13 Oct 2012 11:51

Flip here is Beatrice Ann Chadwick in 1911

Name: Beatrice Ann Chadwick
Age in 1911: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Clayton, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Droylsden
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 428 Manchester Road Droylsden
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Ashton under Lyne
Registration District Number: 468
Sub-registration district: Audenshaw
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Piece: 24383
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Chadwick 40
Beatrice Ann Chadwick 29
Clande Chadwick 10/12
Malcolm George Mathias 3

So not my Beatrice Ann

A mystery within a mystery!

Amanda,

Amanda, Report 13 Oct 2012 12:56

Typical of this hobby!

1901 Number 78 is uninhabited

Kind regards
Amanda

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 13 Oct 2012 13:45

Ha ha! Do you know whether it is a house or some sort of establishment?

Jude

Amanda,

Amanda, Report 13 Oct 2012 14:58

Looks like a house to me.

1891 has the road but much shorter and some are names, so cottages I would have thought and then by 1901 they extended the road.

Kind regards
Amanda

Flip

Flip Report 13 Oct 2012 20:39

Jude, if you look at the address on google street view, you'll see they are small terraced houses, looks like they were built around the same time - so what Amanda posted about 78 being uninhabited on 1901 would fit as houses each side were habited (if that is a word). I don't think it was any sort of "establishment", just a house.

Hope the will is useful when it turns up - hopefully not leaving everything to your grandfather, but shedding some light on his life after Edith Mabel. Keep us posted when you get it, interesting family!

Flip

Flip Report 19 Oct 2012 18:14

No sign of that will yet?? Just waiting for the next episode :-D

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 19 Oct 2012 18:29

No I sent for it last week but they say it can take up to three weeks :-(

I have a photo of my grandparents' wedding and so today I have taken a stab at the man who might be Charles and the woman who might be Edith Mabel (assuming she had not already left - they married October 1902). My stab at him is the one who looks most like Lewis John and William his brothers...her because she is sat next to him ha ha!

Flip

Flip Report 19 Oct 2012 18:57

3 weeks - that's just not good enough, hope you're going to complain ;-)

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 19 Oct 2012 19:07

I haven't got the will....... ;-)

Flip

Flip Report 30 Oct 2012 12:03

Guess you still haven't got the will ..... :-D

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 30 Oct 2012 17:59

No Flip - they've cashed my cheque though :-)

Flip

Flip Report 30 Oct 2012 21:45

:-D :-D :-D typical authorities :-0 :-0

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 13 Nov 2012 20:43

Flip...I sent the application on 11 October. They cashed my cheque on 22 October. They promise a 21 working day turnaround....so they are now on borrowed time :-(

The suspense is Killlllllllllllllling me!!!

Flip

Flip Report 16 Nov 2012 20:04

Hope you're still around Jude - not broken your will yet!

Keep your chin up, remember where there's a will there's a way :-D :-D

That is, unless he left everything to the local dogs home ;-)

Dea

Dea Report 16 Nov 2012 20:10

It must arrive soon !!

Dea xxx

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 16 Nov 2012 20:19

I have heard some people say they've waited MONTHS for wills to arrive :-(

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 16 Nov 2012 20:22

It's my birthday tomorrow...perhaps it will arrive as a present :-))))))