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Theophilus JOnes Mathias

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Flip Report 1 Aug 2016 20:33

GAWD, hope his family isn't as complicated as this one! Good to hear from you Jude.

Nice to see you're holding up, and keeping up the research. I'll be back next month with other subs if my internet keeps holding out - can't believe with a booster antenna and Wi-Fi box I've now got 4G:) Absolute luxury - apart from when OH crashes it - MEN.


HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 1 Aug 2016 20:24

I already have a thread on it from a while ago...Steeds, Jarretts and Burrows lol!


Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 1 Aug 2016 19:49

(uh oh!, awaits those queries then, lol. Glad to see Family History discussed with future in laws Jude, hope eyes weren't 'glazing over' either!)

Keep strong.

Chris :)


HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 1 Aug 2016 19:23

Flip - Hi!

Keeps me busy :-)

Yes I like the 1911 census. It fits with the 1901 census that I had already "assumed". It's worth resurrecting threads every now and then...this time I found out quite what a blackguard Charles was! I think the only way I am going to find more is if they ever release the 1921 census. I am as sure as I can be that Eva and Charles would have been living at 34 Constance Street.

But where she went after Charles died I know not. I can't find a marriage or a death.

Chris is right - it's been too long!

2016 has been an eventful year. My dad died in April - 16 weeks ago today. So I have been busy clearing out the house. And two weeks on Friday, I get to be Mother of the Bride when my younger daughter marries.

Christopher's family are very interesting :-) with a name change!


Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 31 Jul 2016 13:57

(welcomes back Flip, been too long, lol)

Chris :)


Flip Report 31 Jul 2016 13:43

You never give up do you ;-) Just re-registered on here today, and the first thing I find is your thread. Good to see you're still keeping busy.

For what it's worth I think the 1911 census posted by Choccy is a distinct possibility, also the christening posted earlier looks a likely contender even though it doesn't correspond to the school birth date. Looks like dad registered her in school, and they never remember dates (my ex actually texted me a few months ago to check our son's birth date - but say no more he'd already missed it!)

I haven't yet subscribed to other sites yet - want to see how the mobile broadband holds out as we still can't get a phone line here, but I'll watch your thread with interest.


HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 18 Jul 2016 17:28

Could be...age out, as is birthplace. But raglan is not far from Monmouth ....


Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 18 Jul 2016 13:52

(FMP have that 1911 as Iva!, Eva on image)

Chris :)

edits (probates mentioned for Thomas/Lydia, using 'soundex', not seeng!)


AustinQ Report 18 Jul 2016 08:57

That seems a good possible- her family had moved to Hereford too


Choccy Report 18 Jul 2016 08:45

has this one been looked at -


Name: Eva Beavar

Age in 1911: 27

Estimated birth year: abt 1884

Relation to Head: Servant

Gender: Female

Birth Place: Raglan, Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Madley

County/Island: Herefordshire

Country: England

Street address: Holstey Farm, Vowchurch, Hereford

Marital Status: Single

Occupation: General Servant Domestic

Registration district: Hereford

Registration District Number: 337
Sub-registration district: Madley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2

Household schedule number: 51

Piece: 15718

Household Members:

Reginald Dyke Jones 52
Eva C W Jones 52
Dorothea Jones 28
Una Jones 27
>>>>>>> Eva Beavar 27
Thomas Young 50

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 18 Jul 2016 06:48

(Sister was a year out, for School also!, wonder if any help following up siblings, will occupy you till this Xmas, lol)

Chris :)

Births Jun 1878 (>99%)
Beavan Elizabeth Mary Monmouth 11a 38

Marriages Mar 1870 (>99%)
BEVAN Thomas Hereford 6a 751
Price Lydia Hereford 6a 751

Deaths Mar 1927 (>99%)
Bevan Lydia 83 Ross 6a 782

1881 (FMP one)
Thomas Bevan Head Married Male 38 1843 Farmer Of 78 Acres Kentchurch, Herefordshire, England
Lydia Bevan Wife Married Female 37 1844 - Eardisland, Herefordshire, England
Thomas Bevan Son Single Male 12 1869 Scholar Skenfrith, Monmouthshire, Wales
Ellen Bevan Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar Grosmont, Herefordshire, England
John Bevan Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Monmouthshire, Wales
Emily Bevan Daughter Single Female 5 1876 - Monmouthshire, Wales
Emma Bevan Daughter Single Female 3 1878 - Monmouthshire, Wales
Elizabeth Bevan Daughter Single Female 2 1879 - Monmouthshire, Wales
Eva Bevan Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Monmouthshire, Wales
Emma Powell Sister Widow Female 50 1831 - Orcop, Herefordshire, England
House name Cae Robin Farm
Parish Skenfrith
County Monmouthshire
Country Wales
Registration district Monmouth
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 5226
Folio 103
Page 7

1871 (FMP)
Thomas Bevan Head - Male 30 1841 - Herefordshire, England
Lidia Bevan Wife - Female 28 1843 - Herefordshire, England
Thomas Bevan Son - Male 2 1869 - Herefordshire, England
Elen Bevan Daughter - Female 0 1871 - Monmouthshire, Wales
Mary Phillips Mother - Female 60 1811 - Monmouthshire, Wales
Street Stafcrow
Parish Grosmont
County Herefordshire
Registration district Hereford
Archive reference RG10
Piece number 2702
Folio 17
Page 11

edits (apologies, suggested by Flip below!, is that Thomas Death that was added?)

Flip Report 17 May 2015 09:46

Deaths Mar 1917
Bevan Thomas 75 Kington 6a 892

(one sorted!, Emily Bevan M. Reuben G Meredith, 1899. 1939 matches her Birth, from School Record, 1911 at Cae Robin!. Burial 1953 Reuben. The Chestnuts, Grosmont, where they are 1939. His probate 1954, to Emily)

Births Jun 1877 (>99%)
BEAVAN Emma Monmouth 11a 36

(School for above, 29/3/78)

Births Sep 1872 (>99%)
BEVAN John Monmouth 11a 31

(School for above, 27/6/73)

Births Mar 1869 (>99%)
BEAVON Thomas Hereford 6a 499

(School for above, 2/2/69) (Before Marriage 1870?)

Marriages Dec 1891 (>99%)
Beavan Thomas Hereford 6a 1069
Morgan Sarah Ann Hereford 6a 1069

(above 1911, Orcop, Heref., also with him Brother James William from 1891)

Marriages Jun 1918 (>99%)
Bevan Joseph A Thomas Abergavenny 11a 103
Thomas Alice Bevan Abergavenny 11a 103

(for Son, Joseph Amos 1891, image FMP, Father Thomas. Deceased)

Births Mar 1887 (>99%)
BEAVAN Amos Joseph Monmouth 11a 29

(Baptism 1887 FMP)


HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 17 Jul 2016 07:57

I think we have cleared Edith Mabel's life and family...trying to find Eva Bevan in 1911 and then after 1926 when she inherited Charles' estate. She literally appears to disappear. Believe her birth was in July 1880. The date in the school record is wrong..the free nd reg and baptism are correct.



Choccy Report 17 Jul 2016 07:47

Lost track of what info you have or still need

Marriages Jun 1947

Jenkins Vera R Taylor Preston 10f 750
Taylor John Jenkins Preston 10f 750

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007

Name:Vera Rose Taylor

Birth Date:18 Jul 1912

Date of Registration: Jul 2001

Age at Death: 89

Registration district:Preston and South Ribble

Inferred County:Lancashire

Register Number:A49C

District and Subdistrict:5881A

Entry Number:56


Choccy Report 17 Jul 2016 07:38

1939 Register

Jenkins Household (3 People)
4 Albyn Bank Street , Preston C.B., Lancashire, England

Vera Jenkins 18 Jul 1912 Female Surgical Dressings Single 270 2
Mabel Jenkins 03 Nov 1889 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 270 1
Joyce Tabbenor (Wright,Jenkins) 13 Apr 1920 Female Surgical Dressings Single 270 3

Births Sep 1912

Jenkins Vera R Mathias Bury 8c 1062

Births Jun 1920

Jenkins Joyce Mathias Todmorden 9a 406

Marriages Mar 1940

Jenkins Joyce Wright Preston 8e 1385
Wright Leslie Jenkins Preston 8e 1385

Marriages Jun 1949

Jenkins Joyce Tabbenor Preston 10f 674
Tabbenor Russell R Wright Preston 10f 674
Tabbenor Russell R Jenkins Preston 10f 674
Wright Joyce Tabbenor Preston 10f 674

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 17 Jul 2016 07:22

(yes, looked back and saw Eva Deborah Bevan, from me!, couldn't make out why, lol, Ada Deborah was her sister, her Brother Eli O Marriage image, same page as Eva, with Ada D, as Witness!)

(Anyway, had to get a clear head of it, lol. Just wondered who 'Gillian' was following)

Chris :)

(below probably her)

Deaths Mar 1928 (>99%)
Bevan Eva C 48 Pontypridd 11a 674


HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 17 Jul 2016 07:09

No we ruled out Eva Clorinda....she married a Mr Bevan in 1904. "My" Eva was a spinster in 1926 (according to the will drawn up I n 1922)


Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 17 Jul 2016 06:24

(haven't checked back, but that GR Member Gillian, who has 1880, Glyn Newchurch Eva, is that the Eva C 1879, who Married 1904, wasn't sure if you had made 'contact'?)

(her Baptism 1879 as Eva Chlorinda (Alfred James & Merab, he the Woodcutter!. Itton)

Chris :)

(probably raking over an old coal, lol)


HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 16 Jul 2016 20:05

I think we might...and it might not be released.....


AustinQ Report 16 Jul 2016 18:00

This Eva's driving me potty. Hoping we don't have to wait until 1921 census comes out!

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 16 Jul 2016 16:07

(right, that 'sorts' her then, lol)

Chris :)