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Help finding info on William Loader please!

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Sheila

Sheila Report 30 Sep 2012 21:51

Hello, can anyone help me to find the birth (and death) of my g/g/grandfather please?
I have been trying to find his birth and of course his parents for years!
William Loader was born in the early 1800's. He married in St Anne Soho in November 1828 to Harriet Read.
The 1841 census at the Rectory Marylebone says that he was 35 born in the county.
In the 1851 census he is still in Marylebone but his name is just - Loader, as is his wife! and he is 43 born Marylebone.
By 1861, Harriet was a widow.
There were 4 Marylebone deaths in the period between 1851 and 1861. 2 in 1856, 1 in 1858 and 1 in 1860. When I sent the details to GRO they sent me the death certificate for 1860. However I am not convinced that they have sent the correct one. I do not recognise the name of the informant, yet by 1860 he would have had sons aged 11,14,17,20 and 29, and daughters aged 23 and 31, as well as his widow, so why would one of them not have informed? Maybe he died elsewhere?
Any pointers in the right direction would be appreciated.
Thanks

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 30 Sep 2012 22:03

Could this be his baptism?

London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812
Name: William Loader
Baptism Date: 4 May 1806
Parish: Christ Church, Spitalfields
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Parent(s): William, Ann
Record Type: Baptism
Register Type: Parish Register

Father a painter, they lived John Street. Birth date 9 March 1806.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 Sep 2012 22:08

Rule out this one as only 8 weeks old

Name: William Loader
Record Type: Death
Estimated Death Date: 1856
Parish or Poor Law Union: Saint Marylebone
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Register

Date on image is August

Mike *

Mike * Report 30 Sep 2012 22:41

Is this his marriage ?

William Loader ( b 1806)

Marriage
Date 23 Nov 1828
Location
St Anne Soho, London, England

to Harriet Read

According to a tree, he was also married to Susan ( no surname)

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 Sep 2012 22:56

Following on from Mike

1861 this one has wife Susan

Name: William Loader
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Susan Loader
Gender: Male
Where born: Hoxton, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Southwark St Olave
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address: Tooley St ?

Occupation: messenger

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Olave
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 176
Piece: 316
Folio: 58
Page Number: 29
Household Members: Name Age
William Loader 55
Susan Loader 53
Henry Loader 24
Thomas Loader 20
Rose Loader 18

Class: RG 9; Piece: 316; Folio: 58; Page: 29; GSU roll: 542613.

This one is on 1871 census with Henry and Rose
BUT on 1851 as well so rule this family out


??
Name: William Thomas Loader
Baptism Date: 31 Aug 1806
Parish: St Leonard, Shoreditch
County: Middlesex
Borough: Hackney
Parent(s): Giles Loader,
Elizabeth Loader
Record Type: Baptism
Register Type: Parish Register

Sheila

Sheila Report 30 Sep 2012 23:00

I don't think it is the Tower Hamlets birth because there is a death in Tower Hamlets in 1844 of a 38 year old William Loader. Unless there was another William born there around 1806.

Ok, so that is one of the 1856 deaths ruled out too.


Thanks for the help .. anyone else have any ideas?

Sylvia

Sylvia Report 30 Sep 2012 23:05

Sheila there is someone on Ancestry with a William Loader in their tree
William Loader b. 1808 middlesex. Parents Joseph Henry Loader and Elizabeth Hannah Sheldon.
married Harriet Read 23rd Nov. 1828
Died Sept. 1856 Marylebone Middlesex.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 Sep 2012 23:16

Not convinced on those parents

??

Name: Elizabeth Hannah Sheldon
Spouse Name: Joseph Loader
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 10 Dec 1815
Parish: St Giles without Cripplegate
Borough: City of London
Register Type: Parish Register

Sheila

Sheila Report 30 Sep 2012 23:52

Thanks Mike that is the correct marriage.

The children's ages are wrong on the WILLIAM / Susan census for 1861
My William did have a Thomas born 1840 and Henry 1843 but no Rose. In 1861, mine were a cordwainer and an apprentice painter, so wife Susan does not look right.

I will need to check up on the 1806 baptism for parents Giles/ Elizabeth to see what I can find.

Sheila

Sheila Report 1 Oct 2012 00:00

Sylvia, I had seen that, but noticed that Joseph was only born in 1795, so would only have been about 10 when William was born! Also , I believe the baptism for their William was in 1820, and they did have a child William born in 1820, so I am not at all convinced that those parents are correct!!

Sheila

Sheila Report 1 Oct 2012 18:07

On 12 Dec 1860, William Thomas Loader the son of Giles Loader was given the Freedom of the City of London. So unless he died between 12 Dec 1860 and the 1861 census it cannot be him either. I think that this William actually died in 1883.