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Parents of Harry thomas Marshall born 29.9.1884

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tsandison

tsandison Report 1 Oct 2012 22:38

Pleaes could I ask for a look up on the following: I am looking for any info on the parents / siblings of Harry Thomas Marshall born
29/9/1884Essex, England
1911 England Census
Residence
02 Apr 1911(Age: 26)Barking, Essex, England
1911 England Census
Marriage
July 1914(Age: 29)Essex Emily tiley
Emily Tiley B: abt 1885 in St George in the East, London, England
Death city of london /Barking, Essex, England ?????

many regards

Lynski

Lynski Report 1 Oct 2012 22:47

Where did you find his date of birth?

I cannot find a birth on FreeBMD??

Vicci

Vicci Report 1 Oct 2012 22:47

1901 ??
Harry Marshall
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Marshall
Mother's Name: Harriet Marshall
Gender: Male
Where born: Stepney, London, England

Civil parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Canning Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 45
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 5
Piece: 1585
Folio: 96
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
James Marshall 47
Harriet Marshall 41
Alice Marshall 19
Harry Marshall 17
Mary Marshall 8
Peter Kennedy 23
Pauline Graham 32

Reggie

Reggie Report 1 Oct 2012 22:49

How can you know the exact DOB without knowing the names of the parents?

Buy the marriage cert for info about both fathers

Lynski

Lynski Report 1 Oct 2012 22:49

Is this it????

Births Dec 1887 (>99%)
Marshall Harry Thomas Sudbury 4a 657

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 1 Oct 2012 22:50

Names on marriage don't quite tally with your info:

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1914
Marshall Henry W Tiley Romford 4a 1173
Tiley Emily A Marshall Romford 4a 1173

Reggie

Reggie Report 1 Oct 2012 22:50

Born September, his year of birth would show on censuses as 1885

Vicci

Vicci Report 1 Oct 2012 22:52

Marriages Sep 1914 (>99%)
Ellingworth Edith Steven Romford 4a 1173
>>Marshall Henry W Tiley Romford 4a 1173
Steven James A Ellingworth Romford 4a 1173
>>Tiley Emily A Marshall Romford 4a 1173

how sure of the info that you have given?

tsandison

tsandison Report 1 Oct 2012 23:25

hi all thank you all for your help. I got the info from my dad and Harry would have been his grandad but the info was passed down by his dad and he could have got the name Harry / henry mixed up. I was given the following details of siblings. They lived in Barking but they come under romford.
florrie marshall
harry Marshall
stella marshall
sydney arthur marshall
my grandad B: 1920
fred douglas Marshall B: 1924
harry thomas Marshall
B:29/9/1884 in Essex, England D:Barking, Essex, England
Emily Tiley B: abt 1885 in St George in the East, London, England

.~i think i may need to go back to dad :-( and double check the info his given me. :-( Once again thank you for your help.

Vicci

Vicci Report 1 Oct 2012 23:52

Harry is the nick name for Henry

the point about the marriage record is the middle inital given is "W" not T for Thomas.

Reggie

Reggie Report 2 Oct 2012 09:48

You don't have to rely on possibly inaccurate hearsay for the names of the children of the marriage........check them yourself on freebmd

As a pointer............Sydney A was born in 1922............not 1920

Reggie

Reggie Report 2 Oct 2012 09:59

1911 census


Person: TILEY, Emily Address: 8 Clarkson Road Barking

TILEY, Edward Head Married M 55 1856 Dock Labourer London Holborn E C VIEW
TILEY, Harriet Wife Married28 years F 53 1858 Hackney Wick VIEW
TILEY, Emily Daughter Single F 26 1885 Charwoman Domestic Servant St Georges in the East VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 9929
Reference: RG14PN9929 RG78PN522 RD191 SD3 ED19 SN137
Registration District: Romford
Sub District: Barking Town
Enumeration District: 19
Parish: Barking

Reggie

Reggie Report 2 Oct 2012 10:08

So Emily's name wasn't actually TILEY

1901 England Census

Name: Edwd Tiley
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriet Tiley
Gender: Male
Where born: Highgate, London, England
Civil parish: Poplar
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Poplar
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 115
Piece: 355
Folio: 11
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Edwd Tiley 46
Harriet Tiley 47
Emily Shaw 17

Births Jun 1884 (>99%)
Shaw Emily Alice St. Geo. East 1c 409

Reggie

Reggie Report 2 Oct 2012 10:17


1891 England Census

Name: Emily Shan
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Stepdaughter
Mother's Name: Harriet Lie
Gender: Female
Where born: St George in the East
Civil parish: Poplar
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Poplar
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Poplar
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 333
Folio: 43
Page Number: 30
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Lie 36
Harriet Lie 32
Emily Shan 6

tsandison

tsandison Report 2 Oct 2012 18:33

WOW that has been so helpfull. so Emily Alice Tiley was born Emily Shaw. Would she had just taken her step father's name or would this been done legally? And how could i find this info?

I would like to once againto say a big thank you for all your help.

I do have a family story that i am not so sure of. There where whispers that we could be related to a "Cornal Blood" .and it is from other members of my Family tree.

Are there any other details of a CORNAL BLOOD (thomas ) family line???? i have Wikipedia and it makes good reading. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Blood :-D

Vicci

Vicci Report 3 Oct 2012 02:51

WW1 record
Name: Harry William Marshall
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Age at enlistment: 30
>>>Residence: 44 Hart Street, Barking Essex
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 10045
Regiment Name: Labour Corps
Number of images: 8
address in 1921 54 Abbey Road Barking

so this could be his birth ( a year earlier than stated)

Births Dec 1883 (>99%)
MARSHALL Henry William W. Ham 4a 110

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 3 Oct 2012 08:07

(did see the below, but wasn't sure!)...

1901
FARRANCE, James Head Married M 38 1863 General Labourer At Cement Factory
Glensford, Suffolk
FARRANCE, Annie Wife Married F 37 1864
Sudbury, Suffolk
FARRANCE, Lizzie Daughter F 10 1891
Horndon on Hill, Essex
FARRANCE, Kate Daughter F 3 1898
Rainham, Essex
FARRANCE, Lucy Daughter F 0 (7 MOS) 1901
Rainham, Essex
JAGGS, William Boarder Single M 22 1879 Journeyman Tailor
Sudbury, Suffolk
MARCHALL, Harry Boarder Single M 16 1885 Labourer At Soap Factory
Barking, Essex
Piece: 1657
Folio: 32
Page: 35
Registration District: Romford
Civil Parish: Rainham
Municipal Borough:
Address: Broadway Charlottes Alley, Rainham
County: Essex

Chris :)

tsandison

tsandison Report 3 Oct 2012 19:29

wow thanks guys, even more doors to open and search. i am on the case and will upadte all on out come.

t :)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 3 Oct 2012 19:54

(from Army Record)

Marriage to Emily Tiley (spinster) 18/8/14 Register Office, Romford, Essex.

Child, Harry Thomas 20/12/12, Romford, Essex.


Births Mar 1913 (>99%)
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TILEY Harry T Shaw Romford 4a 1158

Chris :)



Reggie

Reggie Report 3 Oct 2012 22:39

Have you now accepted that you had the wrong second name for Harry?