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Charles Herbert Jones 1873 Gloucestershire

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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Oct 2012 14:51

Well spotted Gins.

Braken

Braken Report 5 Oct 2012 14:12

I have been putting all the info onto our tree so much detail thank you to all you all for all your help

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 5 Oct 2012 09:22

Burial
County Norfolk
Place Great Yarmouth
Church St Nicholas
RegisterNumber 1035
BurialDate 06 Oct 1885
Forename Leonora
Relationship
Rel1MaleForename
Rel1FemaleForename
Rel1Surname
Surname AMIS
Age 37
Abode Runham V
FileNumber 3852

(haven't read through!, but can see above, from below link, good for Norfolk, if not already mentioned)


http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Chris :)

edits (William Cook Amos also)

Gins

Gins Report 5 Oct 2012 08:52

I'd guess that this is the death for Leonora


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Name: Leonora Amis
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1885
Age at Death: 37
Registration district: Flegg
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 21

Braken

Braken Report 4 Oct 2012 21:37

yes but thank you

Gins

Gins Report 4 Oct 2012 20:12

Im sure you have this resource

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/


x

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 4 Oct 2012 19:16

Leanora seems to have disappeared after the 1881 census.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 4 Oct 2012 19:03

Elizabeth and Brother Edward in 1881....


1881 England Census
about Elizth. Howlett
Name: Elizth. Howlett
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Edwd. Howlett
Mother's Name: Maria Howlett
Gender: Female
Where born: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Great Yarmouth
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address: Row 48
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Silk Weaver

Registration district: Yarmouth
Sub-registration district: Yarmouth Northern
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1913
Folio: 80
Page Number: 36
Household Members: Name Age
Edwd. Howlett 38
Maria Howlett 42
Elizth. Howlett 16
Edward Howlett 14
Edith Howlett 12
Robert Howlett 10
Flora Howlett 8
Charles Howlett 7
Arthur Howlett 6
Ellen Howlett 2




1871 England Census
about Elizabeth Howlett
Name: Elizabeth Howlett
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Edward Howlett
Mother's Name: Maria Howlett
Gender: Female
Where born: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Civil parish: Great Yarmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Registration district: Yarmouth
Sub-registration district: Yarmouth Southern
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Household schedule number: 66
Piece: 1784
Folio: 28
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Howlett 28
Maria Howlett 32
Elizabeth Howlett 6
Edward Howlett 4
Edith Howlett 2
Robert Howlett 11 Months



England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Edward John Abbott Howlett
Name: Edward John Abbott Howlett
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1864
Registration district: Yarmouth
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume Number: 4b
Page Number: 6


Edward remarried in 1888

England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940
about Edward John Abbott Howlett
Name: Edward John Abbott Howlett
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1844
Age: 44
Father's Name: Edward Howlett
Spouse's Name: Rosetta Harrison
Spouse's Age: 46
Spouse's Father's Name: John Smith
Marriage Date: 25 Feb 1888
Marriage Place: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England


1891 England Census
about Edward Howlett
Name: Edward Howlett
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Rosetta Howlett
Gender: Male
Where born: Yanworth, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Stockton on Tees
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Stockton on Tees
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Stockton
Sub-registration district: Stockton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4047
Folio: 10
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Howlett 48
Rosetta Howlett 49
Charles Howlett 17
Arthur Howlett 16
Ellen Howlett 12
Maud Howlett 9
Ernest Harrison 18 (Stepson)
George Harrison 14 (Stepson)
Arthur Keyworth 21 (Boarder)



England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Edward Sehn Abbott Howlett .......(Second name John.........on the image)
Name: Edward Sehn Abbott Howlett
[Edward John Abbott Howlett]
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1843
Registration district: Yarmouth
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 13
Page: 391







PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 4 Oct 2012 18:35

And............... :-D

William Cook Amos had been married before....

England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940
about William Cook Amos
Name: William Cook Amos
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1847
Age: 22
Father's Name: William Amos
Spouse's Name: Leonora Leah Bartram
Spouse's Age: 21
Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Bartram
Marriage Date: 5 Dec 1869
Marriage Place: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England


1881 England Census
about William Amos
Name: William Amos
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Leanora Amos
Mother's Name: Ann Amos
Gender: Male
Where born: Saxthorpe, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Great Yarmouth
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address: Rainbow Corner
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: General Labourer

Registration district: Yarmouth
Sub-registration district: Yarmouth Northern
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1912
Folio: 64
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
William Amos 33
Leanora Amos 34
Harriet A. Amos 5 (Sunderland)
Ann Amos 65 (Mother)


And with Elizabeth in 1891...

1891 England Census
about William Amos
Name: William Amos
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Amos
Gender: Male
Where born: Saxthorpe, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Great Yarmouth
Town: Great Yarmouth
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Yarmouth
Sub-registration district: Yarmouth Northern
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1502
Folio: 44
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
William Amos 42
Elizabeth Amos 25
Anna Amos 15 (Sunderland)......Possibly Harriet A who appears in the 1881
Ann Amos 76 (Visitor).....Probably the Mother
Edward Howley 23 (Visitor)........ Howlett on the image (Elizabeth's Brother??)
Rosa Smith 42 (Lodger)
Alfred Smith 44 (Lodger)



Births Mar 1876 (>99%)
AMOS Harriet Ann Sunderland 10a 625



Edward Howlett on the census is too much of a coinicidence don't you think for us to not be on the right track?



Braken

Braken Report 4 Oct 2012 18:32

Yes thank you Gins I aggree cheers

Gins

Gins Report 4 Oct 2012 18:22

It looks like William Cook Amos and Elizabeth Maria separated

I would order the birth certs for both children, see what the details are


x

Braken

Braken Report 4 Oct 2012 17:29

The plott thickens complecated family thank you to you all for helping me cheers

safc

safc Report 4 Oct 2012 16:28

name: Edward William Cook Amos
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 05 Aug 1903
baptism/christening place: Stockton-on-Tees, Durham, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: William Cook Amos
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Elizabeth Maria Amos
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C00773-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1514598
reference number: item 4 p 224

safc

safc Report 4 Oct 2012 16:26

name: Alice Emily Jones Amos
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 16 Jan 1907
baptism/christening place: Stockton-on-Tees, Durham, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Charles Hubert Amos
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Elizabeth Maria Amos
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C00773-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1514598
reference number: item 4 p 294

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 4 Oct 2012 16:18

I wondered what happened to Harry W C Amos....

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Harry William C Amos
Name: Harry William C Amos
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1901
Registration district: Stockton
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 85


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Harry William C Amos
Name: Harry William C Amos
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1902
Age at Death: 1
Registration district: Stockton
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 37

Braken

Braken Report 4 Oct 2012 16:03

Thank you to you all

I have found the baptisums for Alice and Edward and Elizabeth Maria and Charles Herbert are on the record as parents both children are down as Jones

All this info you have all given me has cleared up a lot of questions we had so thank you all

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Oct 2012 15:20

Births Sep 1903 (>99%)
Amos Edward William C Stockton 10a 83

Births Mar 1907 (>99%)
AMOS Alice Emily J Stockton 10a 72

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Oct 2012 15:17

Interestingly, there are no birth registrations matching the info for either of the children as per 1911 census

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Oct 2012 15:15

For INFO

1911 census


Person: JONES, Edward Address: 17 Wren Street Stockton - on - Tees

JONES, Charles Head Married9 years M 38 1873 Labourer Bream Gloucestershire VIEW
JONES, Elizabeth Wife Married9 years F 46 1865 Yarnmouth Norfolk VIEW
JONES, Edward Son Single M 7 1904 Stockton Durham VIEW
JONES, Alice Daughter Single F 4 1907 Stockton Durham

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Oct 2012 15:10

Buy the birth cert of one of the children........for facts about the mother's maiden name