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6 Oct 2012 09:39 |
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born ca 1810 appears to have married Eliza/Elizabeth ca 1833 with 5 daughters born between 1833 and 1844 in Holborn & Aldgate
Living in Cripplegate in 1841 and Goodmans Fields in 1851 then they disappear.
Is the marriage identifiable in the London Metropolitan Archives records?
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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6 Oct 2012 09:58 |
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This is the banns and they married on Monday April 21st.
George Moorcroft and Elizabeth Pagitt
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about George Moorcroft Name: George Moorcroft Spouse Name: Elizabeth Pagitt Record Type: Banns Event Date: 20 Apr 1828 Parish: St Marylebone Christ Church Borough: Westminster Register Type: Parish Register Could this be their marriage????? ----------------------------------------------------------
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Emily Moorcroft Name: Emily Moorcroft Record Type: Baptism Born 1st Nov 1834 Baptism Date: 21 Dec 1834 Father's Name: George Moorcroft Warehouse Watchman Mother's Name: Elizabeth Moorcroft Parish or Poor Law Union: St Botolph, Aldersgate Borough: City of London Register Type: Parish Registers
Address Bartholomus Close
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Thomas Henry Moorcroft Name: Thomas Henry Moorcroft Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: 9 Sep 1837 Baptism Date: 25 Jun 1837 Father's Name: George Moorcroft PORTER Mother's Name: Elizabeth Moorcroft Parish or Poor Law Union: St Giles without Cripplegate Borough: City of London Register Type: Parish Registers
Address Pauls Alley London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Elizabeth Jane Moorcroft Name: Elizabeth Jane Moorcroft Record Type: Baptism Born 20 Jan 1839 Baptism Date: 30 Jan 1839 Father's Name: George Moorcroft PORTER Mother's Name: Elizabeth Moorcroft Parish or Poor Law Union: St Botolph, Aldersgate Borough: City of London Register Type: Parish Registers Address 10 HareCourt
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Eliza Moorcroft Name: Eliza Moorcroft Record Type: Baptism Born 18 Jan 1842 Baptism Date: 6 Feb 1842 Father's Name: George Moorcroft PORTER Mother's Name: Elizabeth Moorcroft Parish or Poor Law Union: St Botolph, Aldersgate Borough: City of London Register Type: Parish Registers Address 25 Jewin Street.
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Mary Ann Moorcroft Name: Mary Ann Moorcroft Record Type: Baptism Born 23 Mar 1844 Baptism Date: 21 Apr 1844 Father's Name: George Moorcroft Mother's Name: Elizabeth Moorcroft Parish or Poor Law Union: St Botolph, Aldersgate Borough: City of London Register Type: Parish Registers
Address Shaftesbury Place
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6 Oct 2012 09:58 |
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For Ref........
1851 England Census about George Moorcroft Name: George Moorcroft Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Moorcroft Gender: M (Male) Where born: Burnham, Berkshire, England Civil parish: St Mary Whitechapel Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address:
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Disability: View image Registration district: Whitechapel Sub-registration district: Goodmans Fields ED, institution, or vessel: 1bb Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 153 Piece: 1546 Folio: 436 Page Number: 37 Household Members: Name Age George Moorcroft 40 (Porter) Elizabeth Moorcroft 40 Caroline Moorcroft 18 Emilie Moorcroft 16 Elizabeth Moorcroft 12 Eliza Moorcroft 9 Mary Ann Moorcroft 7
1841 England Census about George Moorcroft Name: George Moorcroft Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809 Gender: Male Civil parish: St Botolph Aldersgate Hundred: London Without the Walls County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: East London Sub-registration district: Cripplegate Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 724 Book: 11 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age George Moorcroft 32 (Warehouseman) Elizth Moorcroft 31 Caroline Moorcroft 8 Emily Moorcroft 6 Jane Moorcroft 2
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6 Oct 2012 10:32 |
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A tree on A* has details for Emily, and this marriage for her:
Emily Moorcroft Spouse Name: James Thomas Price Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 25 Dec 1855 Parish: Bethnal Green St Barnabas Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: George Moorcroft Spouse Father Name: Joseph Price Register Type: Parish Register
There are no details past 1851 for George or Elizabeth, and no other children are on the tree.
Image states her father a warehouseman, one of the witnesses was Elizabeth Moorcroft but I can't read the other witness name.
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6 Oct 2012 10:47 |
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Elizabeth Jane with her Sister Mary Ann....
1881 England Census about Elizabeth J. Moorcroft Name: Elizabeth J. Moorcroft Age: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Relation: Visitor Gender: Female Where born: Aldersgate, Middlesex, England Civil parish: St Leonard County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 57 British St Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Cook Domestic Serv Registration district: Poplar Sub-registration district: Bromley ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 497 Folio: 40 Page Number: 19 Household Members: Name Age Henry J. Lammas 40 (Police Constable) Mary A. Lammas 37 Henry D. Lammas 14 Ernest J. Lammas 11 Archibald Lammas 10 William H. Lammas 7 Albert E. Lammas 2 Arthur A. Lammas Elizabeth J. Moorcroft 43 (Visitor)
Marriages Mar 1878 (>99%) LAMMAS Henry John St Saviour 1d 207 MOORCROFT Mary Ann St. Saviour 1d 207
Henry must have been married before?
1871 England Census about Henry J Lammas Name: Henry J Lammas Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Celia Lammas Gender: Male Where born: St George in the East, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Mile End Old Town Ecclesiastical parish: St Dunstan Town: Mile End Old Town County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Mile End Old Town Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Western ED, institution, or vessel: 32 Household schedule number: 225 Piece: 559 Folio: 82 Page Number: 40 Household Members: Name Age Henry J Lammas 30 (Police Constable) Sarah Celia Lammas 31
There is an error with the page numbers. Henry and Sarah appear on page 41 and again on page 43. Children Heny David Lammas and Ernest James Lammas appear on page 44.
Deaths Dec 1877 (>99%) LAMMAS Sarah Celia 38 Mile End 1c 350
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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6 Oct 2012 11:16 |
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Flip it could be J Saintmire the other witness on Emily's marraige
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6 Oct 2012 11:23 |
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1891 England Census about Mary A Lammas Name: Mary A Lammas Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Henry Lammas Gender: Female Where born: London City, London, England Civil parish: Stratford Le Bow St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen Town: Bow and Bromley of the Tower Hamlets County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Poplar Sub-registration district: Bow ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 315 Folio: 56 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Henry Lammas 50 Mary A Lammas 47 Ernest J Lammas 20 William H Lammas 17 Albert E Lammas 12 Arthur A Lammas 11 Edwin T Lammas 8 1901 England Census about Mary Ann Lammas Name: Mary Ann Lammas Age: 57 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Henry Lammas Gender: Female Where born: London, England Civil parish: Leyton Ecclesiastical parish: St Catherine County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: West Ham Sub-registration district: North Leyton ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 17 Piece: 1616 Folio: 145 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Henry Lammas 60 Mary Ann Lammas 57 Arthur Alfred Lammas 20 Edwin Thomas Lammas 17
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6 Oct 2012 11:24 |
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Household transcription 1911 census Person: LAMMAS, Mary Ann Address: 6 Holland Road Southsea
LAMMAS, Henry Head Married M 70 1841 Metropolitan Police Pensioner St George in the East London VIEW LAMMAS, Mary Ann Wife Married33 years F 67 1844 Shaftesbury Plain Aldersgate St City London VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 5609 Reference: RG14PN5609 RG78PN254 RD90 SD4 ED17 SN226 Registration District: Portsmouth Sub District: Portsmouth and Mid Southsea Enumeration District: 17 Parish: Portsmouth Address: 6 Holland Road Southsea County: Hampshire (3 children born to Henry and Mary.......2 living, 1 had died)
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6 Oct 2012 11:29 |
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Mel may be right about the witness name, I knew I'd seen a similar name somewhere:
Caroline Ann Moorcroft Spouse Name: John Thomas Saintmire Record Type: Banns Event Date: 16 Dec 1855 Parish: Bethnal Green St John Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Register
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6 Oct 2012 11:37 |
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Deaths Sep 1918 (>99%) Lammas Mary A 74 Portsmouth 2b 562
Deaths Dec 1917 (>99%) Lammas Henry J 76 Portsmouth 2b 578
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Mary Ann Lammas Name: Mary Ann Lammas Probate Date: 9 Nov 1918 Death Date: 19 Sep 1918 Death Place: Hampshire, England Registry: London, England Of 6 Canterbury Road Southsea Hampshire....Widow died 19th September 1918# Administration (with Will limited) London 9th November Edith Maria Lammas (wife of Arthur Alfred Lammas) attorney of the said Arthur Alfred Lammas. Effects: £541 3s 9d
Marriages Sep 1911 (>99%) Lammas Arthur A West Ham 4a 250 Mann Edith M W. Ham 4a 250
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6 Oct 2012 11:44 |
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Ooooo the marriages of Caroline and Emily are next to each other on London marriages published the same day.
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6 Oct 2012 12:50 |
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I didn't notice that Mel, but I wonder if Caroline actually married - I can only see the banns but no marriage, and have had no luck finding them on the census?
added, but there is this marriage:
Marriages Sep 1858 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Baker George Thomas Bethnal Gn 1c 623 Saintmire John Thomas Bethnal Gn 1c 623 Ward Frances Bethnal Gn. 1c 623 Wisbey Jane Bethnal Gn 1c 623
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6 Oct 2012 17:55 |
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Thanks all
Peter
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