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Immigration look up please for family and servant

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Gee

Gee Report 6 Oct 2012 22:34

You need IPads........in every room :-D

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 6 Oct 2012 22:29

I always am Gins :-D

Waving at you and hoping you've had a good day.

I've done my family history trawl for the day. Daughter is asking to borrow the computer, Match Of The Day is due to start, my brains are fried so I am going to make some decoupage coasters to wind down.

Thanks for all the help everyone. <3 <3

Gee

Gee Report 6 Oct 2012 21:46

Charming ;-)

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 6 Oct 2012 21:36

:-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-D

Gee

Gee Report 6 Oct 2012 20:41

Youre on yer way...................fly <3

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 6 Oct 2012 20:36

Flatford Mill
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The site where The Hay Wain was painted, as it exists in 2010, where it is primarily a tourist destination.
Flatford Mill is a Grade I listed 18th century watermill built in 1733 in Flatford, East Bergholt, Suffolk, England. Attached to the mill is a 17th century miller's cottage which is also Grade I listed.
The property is located in the heart of Dedham Vale, a typically English rural landscape.
It is noted as the location for works by John Constable, whose father owned the mill. Constable made the mill and its immediate surroundings the subject of many of his most famous paintings. It is the title of one of his most iconic paintings, Flatford Mill (Scene on a Navigable River), and is in the title or the subject of several other of his largest paintings including: Flatford Mill from a lock on the Stour; Flatford Mill from the lock (A water mill); The Lock. The Hay Wain, which features Willy Lott's House, was painted from the front of the mill.
The mill is located just downstream from Bridge Cottage which, along with neighbouring Valley Farm and Willy Lott's Cottage, are leased to the Field Studies Council, a group that uses them as locations for arts, ecology and natural history based courses.

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 6 Oct 2012 20:34

I've found Lucy in the 1871. The original is very pale but I'm certain she is a widow.

I couldn't believe where the family were living. I recognised the place straightaway and it's obvious connections. Everywhere I go with this family there are connections to the world of art. I am totally freaked - in the nicest way of course.

1871 Census Household Record
Household Information
Address Flatford Mill
Parish East Bergholt
District Samford, Capel St Mary
Administrative County Suffolk
Householder 1
Name Lucy Barrell
Age 66
Estimated Year of Birth 1805
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation
Birth Place Suffolk
Birth County Suffolk
Householder 2
Name Richard Barrell
Age 34
Estimated Year of Birth 1837
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation
Birth Place London
Birth County London
Householder 3
Name Lucy Mallows
Age 41
Estimated Year of Birth 1830
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation
Birth Place London
Birth County London
Householder 4
Name George W Mallows
Age 47
Estimated Year of Birth 1824
Relationship to Head of Household Son-In-Law
Occupation
Birth Place Bedfordshire
Birth County Bedfordshire
Householder 5
Name William G Mallows
Age 9
Estimated Year of Birth 1862
Relationship to Head of Household Grandson
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place London
Birth County London
Householder 6
Name Charles E Mallows
Age 6
Estimated Year of Birth 1865
Relationship to Head of Household Grandson
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place London
Birth County London
Householder 7
Name Ernest R Mallows
Age 0
Estimated Year of Birth 1871
Relationship to Head of Household Grandson
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Suffolk
Birth County Suffolk
Householder 8
Name Alfred R Little
Age 15
Estimated Year of Birth 1856
Relationship to Head of Household Grandson
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place London
Birth County London
Householder 9
Name Henry A Spencer
Age 20
Estimated Year of Birth 1851
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Occupation
Birth Place Suffolk
Birth County Suffolk
Householder 10
Name Alice Farthing
Age 14
Estimated Year of Birth 1857
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Suffolk
Birth County Suffolk

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 6 Oct 2012 20:14

Thanks all. Even Gins :-P :-D :-P :-D :-P :-D <3 <3 <3

I thought my excuse for needing help Gins was a decent one. Even more so it was true. Now I think I am back on track.

The family have been fed and watered and I have a couple of hours this evening still to enjoy myself on here.

xxJ <3

Flip

Flip Report 6 Oct 2012 20:10

There's something wrong with the 1851 census search on A*, but there is this entry although I can''t view the transcrip or image:

Lucy Barrell Chelsea Ne, Middlesex London, England Female 21
View Record
Lucy Barrell Chelsea Ne, Middlesex Suffolk, England, Bradfield Female 46
View Record
Martha Barrell Chelsea Ne, Middlesex London, England Female 23
View Record
Zechariah Barrell Chelsea Ne, Middlesex Suffolk, England Male 67
View Record
Mary A. Davison Chelsea Ne, Middlesex Female 14
View Record
Wm H. Davison Chelsea Ne, Middlesex Male 9
View Record
Catherine Donovan Aldgate, Middlesex Female 40
View Record
Johanna Donovan Aldgate, Middlesex Middlesex, England, Whitechapel Female 2
View Record
Margaret Donovan Aldgate, Middlesex Middlesex, England, Whitechapel Female 8
View Record
Mary Donovan Aldgate, Middlesex Middlesex, England, Whitechapel Female 11

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 6 Oct 2012 20:09

Thanks Astra. Perhaps he was a very rich grocer ;-) ;-)

I've got so much to follow up now it's brill.

1841 Census Household Record. I'm sure that these are separate dwellings but they have been transcribed as one so on the off-chance.

Household Information
Address Mount Street
Parish St George Hanover Square
District St George Hanover Square, May Fair
Administrative County Middlesex
Householder 1
Name Robert Davison
Age 65
Estimated Year of Birth 1776
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation
Birth Place
Birth County
Householder 2
Name Caroline Daniels
Age 25
Estimated Year of Birth 1816
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation
Birth Place
Birth County
Householder 3
Name Laura Daniels
Age 2
Estimated Year of Birth 1839
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Middlesex
Birth County Middlesex
Householder 4
Name Mary Ward
Age 45
Estimated Year of Birth 1796
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation
Birth Place Foreign
Birth County Foreign
Householder 5
Name Charlotte De Beauregard
Age 20
Estimated Year of Birth 1821
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation
Birth Place
Birth County
Householder 6
Name Richard De Beauregard
Age 7
Estimated Year of Birth 1834
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place
Birth County
Householder 7
Name Zaccharia Barrell
Age 55
Estimated Year of Birth 1786
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation
Birth Place
Birth County
Householder 8
Name Lucy Barrell
Age 35
Estimated Year of Birth 1806
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation
Birth Place
Birth County
Householder 9
Name Martha Barrell
Age 13
Estimated Year of Birth 1828
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Middlesex
Birth County Middlesex
Householder 10
Name Lucy Barrell
Age 12
Estimated Year of Birth 1829
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Middlesex
Birth County Middlesex
Householder 11
Name Richard Barrell
Age 4
Estimated Year of Birth 1837
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Middlesex
Birth County Middlesex
Householder 12
Name Elizabeth Sanwell
Age 30
Estimated Year of Birth 1811
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation
Birth Place
Birth County
Householder 13
Name John Sanwell
Age 30
Estimated Year of Birth 1811
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation
Birth Place
Birth County
Householder 14
Name John Sanwell
Age 3
Estimated Year of Birth 1838
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Middlesex
Birth County Middlesex
Householder 15
Name Mary Sanwell
Age 7
Estimated Year of Birth 1834
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Middlesex
Birth County Middlesex
Householder 16
Name Elizabeth Sanwell
Age 5
Estimated Year of Birth 1836
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Middlesex
Birth County Middlesex
Householder 17
Name William Sanwell
Age 2
Estimated Year of Birth 1839
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Middlesex
Birth County Middlesex
Householder 18
Name - Sanwell
Age 0
Estimated Year of Birth 1841
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Middlesex
Birth County Middlesex
Householder 19
Name Susan Wright
Age 45
Estimated Year of Birth 1796
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation
Birth Place
Birth County
Householder 20
Name Mary Biggs
Age 35
Estimated Year of Birth 1806
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation
Birth Place
Birth County


1851 Census Household Record

AND THAT AMERICAN CONNECTION AGAIN

From the original the address is 1 House Building 22 Walton Street.

Household Information
Address Walton Street
Parish Saint Luke Chelsea
District Chelsea, Chelsea
Administrative County Middlesex
Householder 1
Name Zahariah Barrell
Age 67
Estimated Year of Birth 1784
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Retired Grocer
Birth Place
Birth County Suffolk
Householder 2
Name Lucy Barrell
Age 46
Estimated Year of Birth 1805
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation Wife
Birth Place Bradfield
Birth County Suffolk
Householder 3
Name Martha Barrell
Age 23
Estimated Year of Birth 1828
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation None
Birth Place
Birth County London
Householder 4
Name Lucy Barrell
Age 21
Estimated Year of Birth 1830
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation None
Birth Place
Birth County London
Householder 5
Name Mary A Davison
Age 14
Estimated Year of Birth 1837
Relationship to Head of Household Visitor
Occupation None
Birth Place New York, America
Birth County
Householder 6
Name William H Davison
Age 9
Estimated Year of Birth 1842
Relationship to Head of Household Visitor
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place New York, America
Birth County
Householder 7
Name Susan Wright
Age 58
Estimated Year of Birth 1793
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Occupation House Servant
Birth Place
Birth County Suffolk
Householder 8
Name Sarah Hart
Age 40
Estimated Year of Birth 1811
Relationship to Head of Household Visitor
Occupation Farmers Wife
Birth Place
Birth County Bedfordshire

I'm currently trying to find old Zach's death

Gee

Gee Report 6 Oct 2012 20:00

Jill

Dont you have access to the censuses......lazy bird :-P :-D

Choccy

Choccy Report 6 Oct 2012 19:59



Massachusetts, Town Records, 1620-1988

Name: Elizabeth Crump
Birth Date: 16 Sep 1874
Event Type: Birth
Event City: Boston
Father Name: Walter H Crump
Mother Name: Annie


Birth place - 91 Paris Street
Occupation of Walter H Crump - Carpenter
Both parents from England

Flip

Flip Report 6 Oct 2012 19:56

Think this may be Richard in 1841:

Richard Barrell
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St George Hanover Square
Hundred: Westminster
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: Mayfair
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 734
Book: 6
Folio: 26
Page Number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Davison 65
Caroline Daniels 25
Laura Daniels 2
Mary Ward 45
Charlotte De Beauregard 20
Richard De Beauregard 7
Lageharia Barrell 55 <<< Zac, could be on image, and he's a grocer
Lucy Barrell 35 <<<
Martha Barrell 13 <<<
Lucy Barrell 12 <<<
Richard Barrell 4 <<<
Elizabeth Sancock 30
John Sancock 30
John Sancock 3
Mary Sancock 7
Elizabeth Sancock 5
William Sancock 2
Nk Sancock 2 Mo
Susan Wright 45
Mary Biggs 35

Flip

Flip Report 6 Oct 2012 19:52

Richard Barrell
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Zachariah Barrell
Mother's Name: Lucy Barrell
Gender: Male
Where born: St Georges, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Chelsea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Simon
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Chelsea
Sub-registration district: Chelsea North East
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 679
Piece: 39
Folio: 50
Page Number: 92
Household Members: Name Age
Zachariah Barrell 78 << retired grocer as Astra said
Lucy Barrell 55 << wife
Richard Barrell 24
Alfred R Little 5 << grandson
Susan Wright 68

Astra

Astra Report 6 Oct 2012 19:42

Zachariah Barrell by the way was a Grocer born in 1783

Amazing how that became Gent when Richard married!

Astra

Astra Report 6 Oct 2012 19:36

RUTLAND, William Head Married M 43 1808 Saddler Master Employing 2 Man
Wavendon, Buckinghamshire VIEW
RUTLAND, Sarah A Wife Married F 42 1809
Soho, Middlesex VIEW
RUTLAND, Martha A Daughter Unmarried F 15 1836
Chelsea, Middlesex VIEW
RUTLAND, Emma M Daughter F 13 1838 Scholar
Chelsea, Middlesex VIEW
RUTLAND, Fanny M Daughter F 9 1842 Scholar
Chelsea, Middlesex VIEW
SINGLETON, Ann Servant Unmarried F 23 1828 General Servant
Chillington, Somersetshire VIEW

Piece: 1474 Folio: 239 Page: 4 Registration District: Chelsea Civil Parish: Saint Luke Chelsea Municipal Borough: Address: 199, Sloane Street, Saint Luke Chelsea, Hans County: Middlesex

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 6 Oct 2012 19:32

Wasn't she just.

In the 1891 you can't even blame the ennumerator having bad writing. In the 1881 which you so brilliantly found (sticks fingers down throat) she has again defied normal aging practice and got younger with age.

Please would you see if you can find the family in earlier census. The house has suddenly got busy again and I can't keep my train of thoughts together and I can't find them. It's probably me. Looks like my afternoon sabatical is over :-D :-D

Gee

Gee Report 6 Oct 2012 18:58

:-D


She was a porkie, our Fanny, about her age!

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 6 Oct 2012 18:55

I take it all back. You are so wonderful :-P

Explains why I couldn't find them in the 1881.

Waving madly at you. <3 <3

Gee

Gee Report 6 Oct 2012 18:52

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Fanny Mary Rutland
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 1 Oct 1841 <<<<<Born Sept 6th 1841
Father's Name: William Rutland <<<<Sadler? Sloan Street
Mother's Name: Sarah Ann Rutland
Parish or Poor Law Union: Chelsea St Luke
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Register Type: Parish Registers