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having had a break from geneology for a few years i have been bitten by the bug again after an enquiry into a member from our family tree.
my great grandfather is a bit of a mystery, as he dissapears after the 1891 census, and his wife declares herself a widow on the 1901 census, but family members believe he moved, on possibly emigrating.
i have copies of his birth and marriage certificates, his details are as follows:-
born george thomas badger in dec 1853 in west bromwich to parents george badger & bridget badger (cooper).
he married eliza savage in aston birmingham in april 1874. by 1891 they have moved to london and are living in reigate with 11 children, this is the last information we have on george and his son norman. we have been unable to trace any death certificates for either of them. if anyone has any information i would be most grateful. my father (75) and his sister (89) would love to know what became of their grandfather. many thanks mick & marie badger.

For ref.

1891 England Census
about Ermentrude Badger
Name: Ermentrude Badger
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George T Badger
Mother's Name: Eliza Badger
Gender: Female
Where born: Dulwich, London, England

Civil parish: Reigate Foreign
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Town: Reigate
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Reigate
Sub-registration district: Reigate
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 577
Folio: 129
Page Number: 38
Household Members: Name Age
George T Badger 38
Eliza Badger 42
Howard G Badger 15
Reginald Badger 13
Ethel M Badger 11
Hilda Gertrude Badger 10
Norman V Badger 9
Leo Badger 9
Basel Badger 7
Ermentrude Badger 5
Gwendoline Badger 4
Alfred G Badger 2
Godfrey A Badger 1

1891 at Gatton Road, Reigate Foreign, Reigate
BADGER, George T Head Married M 38 1853 Own Means West Bromwich, Staffs
BADGER, Eliza Wife Married F 42 1849 Camden Town, London
BADGER, Howard G Son M 15 1876 New Oscott, Warwickshire
BADGER, Reginald Son M 13 1878 Erdington, Warwickshire
BADGER, Ethel M Daughter F 11 1880 Handsworth, Staffordshire
BADGER, Hilda Gertrude Daughter F 10 1881 Leicester, Leicestershire
>>>BADGER, Norman V Son M 9*** 1882 Islington, London
>>>BADGER, Leo Son M 9 ***1882 New Oscott, Warwickshire
BADGER, Basil Son M 7 1884 Peckham, London
BADGER, Ermentrude Daughter F 5 1886 Dulwich, London
BADGER, Gwendoline Daughter F 4 1887 Croydon, Surrey
BADGER, Alfred G Son M 2 1889 Earls Wood, Surrey
BADGER, Godfrey A Son M 1 1890 Redhill, Surrey

Could Norman have been adopted, or misprint.

Births Jun 1882
Badger Leo Aston 6d 441

Births Jun 1882
Savage Norman Vincent Islington 1b 202

Births Dec 1882
McLeen Norman Vincent Islington

Well I can't find anything either!!

??

Died in Canada sometime after 1890

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about George Thomas Badger
Name: George Thomas Badger
Probate Date: 19 Apr 1916
Death Date: Jan 1890
Death Place: Surrey, England
Registry: London, England

Andy

????
Marriages Jun 1874 (>99%)
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>>>>>>>BADGER George Thomas Aston 6d 516
Humphreys Thomas Aston 6d 516
>>>>>>>Savage Eliza Aston 6d 516
Wilkes Sarah Aston 6d 516

Regards Vera

If he was adopted

1911 at 99 Engleheart Road, Catford
Norman Vincent Savage 29 JOURNIMAN BUTCHER London
Maud Mary Savage 23 Wife London
**George Henry Bailly 65 Widowed Father PAINTER CAMBERWELL, London
** Looks to be BEILBY

Married 1 year, no children.

thanks everybody for your input. andrew i don,t think the george you have found is my one as he is still alive in 1891 as is listed in census.
vera the marriage you mentioned is correct as i have the marriage certificate, he does indeed marry eliza savage, bridget cooper was his mother..
joseph he could have been adopted, but none of the other children were adopted, is there an adoption register? as for a misprint i have looked at the original census document, but it is a little difficult to be 100% sure ,but nothing matches on the birth records? confusing..
mel thanks for having a look.

Marie


did you REALLY look at that probate that Andrew found???


death ON OR SINCE Jan 1890


ie, they didn't know when he actually died!


That smells to me of someone having him declared dead, and thus his will being submitted for probate. OR of money being found in a bank and the claim made by the Trustee.


This is the actual entry ............. you'll have to buy the will to see how the money was left.


Badger, George Thomas of Winterbourne Road, Thornton Heath, Croydon, Surrey, died on or since January 1890 in Canada. Administration [granted] London 19 April 1916 to the Public Trustee
Effects £978






sylvia

Official records for adoption began only in 1927

thanks for that sylvia, will send for a copy of the will and see if the trustee links with the family, i assume with living children it would have to be one of them as the wife died 1908. what is a public trustee? mick & marie badger

joseph i think you are spot on, it seems norman wasn't a badger after all, but norman vincent savage, his father appears to have died a few years earlier and he was living with his aunt, eliza badger (savage) thanks for your lead, still waiting for probate/will for george t.

Since the Canadian census 1901 gives the exact dob, and the 1911 gives month & year, I thought I would look up Geo's birth in the GRO index.
Can search at http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/index.jsp or use the year switch at top right for 1901.

Births Jun 1853 (>99%)
Badger George Thomas W Bromwich 6b 365
[image says page=568 - correct'n subm'd to FreeBMD]
Clicking on the "W Bromwich" link, then the more info "here" link gets:
WEST BROMWICH REGISTRATION DISTRICT
Sub-districts : Handsworth, Oldbury, Wednesbury, West Bromwich First, West Bromwich North East, etc.

But there's an oddity - this was a late rego as he was actually born in 1852
Using http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk/
West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1852
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
BADGER George T West Bromwich North East Sandwell Register Office WBNE/20/48

thanks mgnv, i have a copy of his birrth certificate and he was born on 8/12/1852 and was registered on 7/06/1853 by his father also called george.
what i don't have is any firm connection with canada other than a trustee listing his death at sometime btween 1890-1916 in canada, any info would be most welcome. mick.

Since many Brits were attracted by the free homestead land in Canada, I checked the Western Land Grants and got a hit:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/western-land-grants/001007-100.01-e.php
Part Section Township Range Meridian
SE 25 31 3 W4
Reference:
Volume: 866
Folio: 280
Microfilm reel number: C-6632
Names: George Badger

This quarter section (i.e., 160 acres) was a couple of miles WSW of Esther AB, 13 miles from the AB-SK border:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/post-offices/index-e.html
Esther Sec. 32, Twp. 31, R. 2, W4M - 1914-06-01

However, when I checked on when the letters patent (i.e., title) were granted via the search help, I get:
LIBER DATES REEL NUMBER
866 May 28, 1920 - June 09, 1920 C-6631-C-6632
so it's unlikely this George is yours.

ok mgnv, but many thanks for taking the time to look, your efforts are appreciated.