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Williams' Death Look-ups

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Peter

Peter Report 7 Oct 2012 20:49

Hi there I am looking for the deaths of the following people:

1) George H Williams (born 1892 in Middlesbrough, Yorkshire)
2) Joseph Collier Williams (born 1894 in Middlesbrough, Yorkshire)
3) Albert Edwin Williams (born 1897 in Middlesbrough, Yorkshire)

Here they are in 1911:

Their parents, John and Mary had been married for 20 years 3 children born within the marriage 3 living. The family are residing at 15 Oakwell Terrace Midd John Robert 1864 Civil Sevice Overseer for Post office Mary Jane 1862 Joseph Collier 1894 Commercial Clerk (salt industry) Albert Edwin 1897 School

Possibilty for George H Williams: Raikes, Briestfield ,Dewsbury. George Williams Boarder 1892 tramman (below ground) Midd Living with: Henry & Caroline Horn

Thank you

Peter

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 7 Oct 2012 21:13

There is this probate entry on Ancestry - hopefully someone with higher level sub than me can view it!:

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Tax, Criminal, Land & Wills

Name: Joseph Collier Williams
Death: dd mm 1955 -

Based on that:

Name: Joseph C Williams
Birth Date: abt 1893
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1955
Age at Death: 62
Registration district: Cleveland
Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding
Volume: 1b
Page: 601

Jan

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 7 Oct 2012 21:33

gosh

you do have a lot of names in your tree, Peter :-D

Peter

Peter Report 7 Oct 2012 22:05

Yes Sylvia - 8,200 now. Maybe I take it a bit too seriously?

But I did start my research in 2002!

alviegal

alviegal Report 7 Oct 2012 22:13


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Joseph Collier Williams
Name: Joseph Collier Williams
Probate Date: 16 Sep 1955
Death Date: 28 Jun 1955
Death Place: Yorkshire, England
Registry: London, England


of 12 Stirling Rd, Redcar, Yorkshire died at The Stead Hospital, Redcar. Probate London 16 Sept to the Yorkshire Penny Bank Ltd. Effects £3022 14 s

alviegal

alviegal Report 7 Oct 2012 22:19

??


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Albert Edwin Williams
Name: Albert Edwin Williams
Probate Date: 24 Jul 1957
Death Date: 8 Jul 1957
Death Place: Yorkshire, England
Registry: Durham, England


of 52 Westfield Ave, Redcar died at The General Hospital, Guisborough, Yorkshire. Probate Durham 24 July to Alice Pretoria Williams, widow. Effects £1515 8s 10d.

Peter

Peter Report 7 Oct 2012 22:48

Wow thank - is there a death index for this?! Just to see the ages?! And a marriage for Albert Edwin Williams?

Peter

Peter Report 7 Oct 2012 22:59

Can I also ask for a look up for the death of Alice Pretoria Williams? (I found a possible marriage in 1924, and have emailed about it credibility).

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 Oct 2012 22:59

Peter, try FreeBMD for the indices http://www.freebmd.org.uk

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 Oct 2012 23:01

This wouldn't be on freeBMD:

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
Name: Alice Pretoria Williams
Birth Date: 17 Feb 1900
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1976
Age at Death: 76
Registration district: Cleveland
Inferred County: Cleveland
Volume: 3
Page: 2217

Who are you emailing about marriage credibility?

alviegal

alviegal Report 7 Oct 2012 23:04


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006 about Albert E Williams
Name: Albert E Williams
Birth Date: abt 1897
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1957
Age at Death: 60
Registration district: Cleveland
Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding
Volume: 1b
Page: 505



??
England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005 about Albert E Williams
Name: Albert E Williams
Spouse Surname: Alderson
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1924
Registration district: Middlesbrough
Inferred County: Yorkshire
Volume Number: 9d
Page Number: 1149
Find Spouse: Alice P Alderson

alviegal

alviegal Report 7 Oct 2012 23:08

And here she is.

1911 census transcription details for: 6 Roscoe Street Middlesbrough
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National Archive Reference:

RG14PN29257 RG78PN1695 RD535 SD2 ED19 SN203
Reg. District: Middlesbrough
Sub District: Middlesbrough East
Parish: Middlesbrough
Enum. District: 19
Address: 6 Roscoe Street Middlesbrough
County: Yorkshire (North riding)
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
ALDERSON, Alfred Head Married
23 years M 48 1863 Joiner And C Barnard Castle Durham
ALDERSON, Jane Ann Wife Married
23 years F 51 1860 Bp Auckland Durham
ALDERSON, Mary Lillian Daughter Single F 20 1891 Bowes Yorkshire
ALDERSON, Ralph Vickers Son Single M 17 1894 Engine Cleaner N E R Bowes Yorkshire
ALDERSON, Thomas Wilfred Son M 13 1898 Bowes Yorkshire
ALDERSON, Alice Pretoria Daughter F 11 1900 Bowes Yorkshire




1901 census transcription details for: Bowes, Bowes (York Nr), Bowes
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 4657
Folio: 17
Page: 8
Reg. District: Teesdale
Sub District: Barnard Castle
Parish: Bowes (York Nr)
Enum. District: 6
Ecclesiastical District: Bowes St Giles
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Bowes, Bowes (York Nr), Bowes
County: Durham
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
ALDERSON, Alfred Head Married M 38 1863 Joiner Cartwright Painter Paper Hanger Undertaker & C
Bowes, Yorkshire
ALDERSON, Jane A Wife Married F 41 1860
Bishop Auckland, Durham
ALDERSON, Mary L Daughter F 10 1891
Bowes, Yorkshire
ALDERSON, Ralph V Son M 7 1894
Bowes, Yorkshire
ALDERSON, Annie A Daughter F 6 1895
Bowes, Yorkshire
ALDERSON, Thomas W Son M 3 1898
Bowes, Yorkshire
ALDERSON, Alice P Daughter F 1 1900
Bowes, Yorkshire

Peter

Peter Report 7 Oct 2012 23:14

Thank you - I found the marriage and have emailed Middlesbrough about that. I'll wait until I hear back before adding her to my tree but it seems almost certain (Albert's address is the same as his father's, who is a ggg uncle of mine).

Thanks again,

Peter

Peter

Peter Report 8 Oct 2012 18:32

Yes correct marriage - father's details match!

Thank you so much - I did't expect this search to be so succesful. Are there any signs for George H Williams? It would be good to find out about him now.

Thanks,

Peter

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 8 Oct 2012 19:11

Peter - do you have any idea what the H could be for George's middle name? It's just there are so many George Williams it would help if we could narrow it down.

Peter

Peter Report 8 Oct 2012 20:50

I know Marie Celeste ... I know this makes things more difficult! But as of yet, I don't know ... I assume Henry but only as that seems the most common use of 'H'.

I've searched from 1890-1895 (Births) under the Middlesbrough and Guisborough districts and this was all I could find:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Mar 1890 (>99%)
Williams George Henry D Middlesbro' 9d 561 Scan available - click to view

Births Sep 1895 (>99%)
Williams George Herbert Middlesbro' 9d 597 Scan available - click to view

I don't think it is either of these?! How odd.

Peter

Peter Report 8 Oct 2012 20:54

Hmmmm what do you think?

Deaths Jun 1931 (>99%)
Williams George H 42 Dewsbury 9b 681 Scan available - click to view

Is there a will?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 8 Oct 2012 22:34

Can't see a probate record .....

Peter

Peter Report 8 Oct 2012 23:04

Ah this one is a little more difficult - what do you think?

Susan

Susan Report 9 Oct 2012 08:52

A Possible.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about George H Williams Name: George H Williams
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1912
Age at Death: 19
Registration district: Sheffield
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 570