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Rootgather got it via tree on ancestry but thats as far as they got
aswell

Rootgatherer,
I think the year of birth for Grace (McConnel)l is a guestimate.
It appears she died soon after the birth of her youngest child Helen, born 1837.
As her husband Andrew Murray was bc 1798, I think Eveie has assumed that Grace was a similar age.
The two 1841 returns you posted look right. 3yr old Helen is with her paternal aunt and father Andrew is with his older children
In 1861, Andrew is also found in the Travis household entered as brother

These are all the births from Family Search born to:
Andrew Murray and Grace McConnell:

Mary Murray b 2 Aug 1820 Troqueer
John Murray b 24 Jan 1823 Troqueer
Elizabeth Murray 10 Jun 1825 Troqueer
Mary Comry Murray b 25 Feb 1828 Troqueer
Helen Murray b 4 May 1830 Troqueer
Catherine Murray b 9 Sep 1832 Troqueer
Grace Murray 22 Dec 1834 Troqueer
Helen Murray b 22 Sep 1837 Troqueer

Where did you get the year and place of birth for Grace please?

The following may or may not be relevant to your family.

Burials

17-Jun 1831 Murray Margaret Kirkcudbright F 10 Hooping Cough

25-Jan 1834 McConnel Son of James McConnel Kirkcudbright M 2 Hooping Cough

30-Dec 1841 McConnell Elizabeth Kirkcudbright F 8 Worm Fever

13-Jan 1844 McConnell Thomas High St M 65 Consumption



Burgh of Kirkcudbright - Personal Stent Roll, 1779

10th Class - at 1½d
John Murray, shoemaker
John M'Connell, fidler


1779 Stent List

Lands, Shillings, Pence


John Murrays house, late Charles's - 2d
John Murrays house, Sett - 2½d
John M'Connells house - 4½d


Source http://www.old-kirkcudbright.net/genealogy.asp

thanks rootgatherer for info ,, its graces parents i need now found andrews
thanks all

Andrew but no Grace in 1841?


Name: Andrew Murray
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1798
Gender: Male
Where born: Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Troqueer
County: Kirkcudbrightshire
Address: Colledge St
Occupation: Stocking Maker J
Parish Number: 882
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Murray 43
John Murray 18
Eliz Murray 14
Catherine Murray 7
Grace Murray 5

Is this Helen in 1841 please?

Name: Helen Murray
Age: 3 6 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Gender: Female
Where born: Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Troqueer
County: Kirkcudbrightshire
Address: Colledge St
Parish Number: 882
Household Members: Name Age
James Francis 44
Margaret Travis 45
Mary Travis 16
Helen Murray 3 6 Mo

trying to find graces parents

OK found the birth:

name: Helen Murray
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 02 Oct 1837
baptism/christening place: , TROQUEER, KIRKCUDBRIGHT, SCOTLAND
birth date: 23 Sep 1837
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Andrew Murray
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Grace Mcconnell

Where in Scotland do they come from?
Have you found them on the 1841 census?

found andews parents but no luck on graces yetttttttttttttttttt

Look for baptisms on the IGI

Or purchase credits for Scotlands people site and search there

married a andrew murray had daughter born 1837 helen murray
trying to find grace and andrews parents but not haven much luck so far
any help id be grateful for thank you x