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Annie Louisa Armstrong.

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Cheryl

Cheryl Report 17 Oct 2012 07:14

I am looking for the parents of Annie Louisa Armstrong,she was born 1878 in Ipswich,Suffolk,England,she is my great grandmother.
Thank you.
Cheryl.

Astra

Astra Report 17 Oct 2012 08:19

ARMSTRONG, Henry B Head Married M 38 1843 Innkeeper & Tailor
Brighton, Sussex VIEW
ARMSTRONG, Louie Wife Married F 27 1854
London, London, Middlesex VIEW
ARMSTRONG, Annie L Daughter Single F 3 1878
Ipswich, Suffolk VIEW
ARMSTRONG, Harry O Son Single M 0 1881
Hadleigh, Suffolk VIEW
WOODS, Muel Servant Single M 23 1858 Barman
Woodbridge, Suffolk VIEW
FISK, Mary Ann Servant Single F 35 1846 Servant Domestic
Woodbridge, Suffolk VIEW

Piece: 1883 Folio: 20 Page: 1 Registration District: Woodbridge Civil Parish: Woodbridge Municipal Borough: Address: White Horse Inn, Market Hill, Woodbridge County: Suffolk

Cheryl

Cheryl Report 17 Oct 2012 08:39

Hi Astra,
I hope I'm doing this right as I haven't been on here since it has all changed.
Would you know what Annie's mother Louisa's last name is please,as I have two last names for her.
Thank you very much for your help.
Cheryl.

Gins

Gins Report 17 Oct 2012 08:42

Hi

Did the family end up in Oz?


Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Henry B Armstrong
Name: Henry B Armstrong
Death Date: 1918
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Ann
Registration Year: 1918
Registration Place: Auburn, New South Wales
Registration Number: 7744

Gins

Gins Report 17 Oct 2012 08:44

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Henry Bowers Armstrong
Name: Henry Bowers Armstrong
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1877
Registration district: Strand
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 865

Spouse: Louisa Maria Battram

Gins

Gins Report 17 Oct 2012 08:46

Her birth

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Louisa Maria Battram
Name: Louisa Maria Battram
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1854
Registration district: Whitechapel
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 407

Gins

Gins Report 17 Oct 2012 08:51

I think this must a mistranscription for her father


Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
aboName: Louisa M Armstrong
Death Date: 1913
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's Name: Bertram
Mother's Name: Sydney
Registration Year: 1913
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Registration Number: 15032

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 17 Oct 2012 08:51

1851
ARMSTRONG, John Head Married M 39 1812 Hatter
Saint James Westminster
ARMSTRONG, Ann Wife Married F 32 1819
Brighton, Sussex
ARMSTRONG, Frederick John Son M 10 1841
Brighton, Sussex
ARMSTRONG, Henry Bowels Son M 8 1843
Brighton, Sussex (Bowers)
ARMSTRONG, Charles J Son M 4 1847
Brighton, Sussex
ARMSTRONG, Osmond Son M 2 1849
Brighton, Sussex
PONGERARD, P J Married M 25 1826 Merchant
Rhiwlas
REMY, G Married M 26 1825 Merchant
Paris
DELATRE, J Unmarried M 22 1829 Teacher
Calais
BARRIER, E Unmarried M 30 1821 Teacher
Paris
REMERIO Unmarried M 36 1815 Master
Napleton
GUIRAND F 37 1814
Bordean
GUIRAND, Rosa Unmarried F 19 1832 Artiste
Bordean
BAXTER, William Lodger Unmarried M 50 1801 Annuitant
Shrewsbury
PAIN, Ann Servant Unmarried F 30 1821 House Servant
Warbleton, Sussex
Piece: 1484
Folio: 36
Page: 65
Registration District: Saint James Westminster
Civil Parish: Saint James Westminster
Municipal Borough: Westminster
Address: 21, Sherrard Street, Saint James Westminster, Westminster
County: Middlesex

Chris :)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 17 Oct 2012 09:12

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/search?adv=y

(Death notice of Henry in above link, aged 75)

Chris :)

Cheryl

Cheryl Report 17 Oct 2012 10:00

Hi Gins,
Yes they did end up here in Australia,I have my great grandmother Annie Louisa Armstrong's marriage certificate and yes it has Louisa Bertram and you have Battram and on her death certificate it has Venables. So you can see why I needed help I'm still lost,I guess the birth certificate which Battram on it I think must be the right name for Louisa.
Now I have been told about Harry and I was also told about a sister named Alice but the only Alice I can find was born in Queensland Australia.
Alice's Marriage certificate had no last name for her mother Louisa ?? and her death certificate has Henry Armstrong as the father and mother as Maria Black.
I am so confused with this family.
Thank you very much for your help.
Cheryl.

Cheryl

Cheryl Report 17 Oct 2012 10:03

Hi Chris,
So this is Henry B.Armstrong's parents is that right if so thank you to for your help ,I have a few family members that will love to know this.
I appreciate all the help you all have given me.
Cheryl.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 17 Oct 2012 10:24

Name: Louisa Maria Battran
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 4 Jun 1854 (Born 6 May)
Father's Name: Isaac Battran (Cork Cutter)
Mother's Name: Charlotte Louisa Battran
Parish or Poor Law Union: Whitechapel St Mary
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

(not sure of above?)

Chris :)

Marriages Jun 1853 (>99%)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Battram Isaac Whitechapel 1c 791
Reynolds Charlotte Louisa Whitechapel 1c 791


Deaths Dec 1889 (>99%)
-------------------------------------------------------
Battram Isaac 63 Whitechapel 1c 244


Deaths Jun 1867 (>99%)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Battram Charlotte Louisa 42 Whitechapel 1c 250


1861 (Battram)
BATTERSON, Isaac Head Married M 34 1827 ...
Timworth, Suffolk (Cork Cutter and Confectioner)
BATTERSON, Charlote L Wife Married F 36 1825
White Chapel, Middlesex
BATTERSON, Louisa M Daughter F 6 1855 Scholar
Tower Without, Middlesex
BATTERSON, Alice M Daughter F 3 1858 Scholar
Camberwell, Surrey
Piece: 274
Folio: 212
Page: 51
Registration District: Whitechapel
Civil Parish: Precinct of the Old Tower Without
Municipal Borough:
Address: 6, Postern Row, Precinct Of The Old Tower Without
County: London

1871
BARTRAM, Isaac Head M 43 1828 Suffolk (Sanitary Inspector)
BARTRAM, Louisa M Daughter F 16 1855 Middlesex
BARTRAM, Alice M Daughter F 13 1858 Surrey
REYNOLDS, Maria Sister F 41 1830 Middlesex
REYNOLDS, Thomas B Nephew M 15 1856 Middlesex
Piece: 523
Folio: 61
Page: 23
Registration District: Whitechapel
Civil Parish: Whitechapel
Municipal Borough:
Address: Prescott St, Great, Whitechapel
County: London, Middlesex


Name: Alice Mary Battram
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 28 Jan 1883 (Born 20 May 1857)
Father's Name: Battram Isaac (Sanitary Inspector)
Mother's Name: Charlotte Battram (Deceased)
Parish or Poor Law Union: Paddington St Peter
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Registers
(60, Gt. Prescot Street)

Cheryl

Cheryl Report 17 Oct 2012 12:29

Hi Chris,
Thank you for that,now you have Battran not Battram I'm hoping that its a type error,other wise I have it spelt three different ways lol.
Thanks again.
Cheryl.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 17 Oct 2012 13:40

(would say it should be Battram!)

Who is her Father on the 1877 Marriage?...

Chris :)

edits (with apology, was thinking you had 1877 Marriage!)

Cheryl

Cheryl Report 17 Oct 2012 14:30

Hi Chris,
The only marriages I have are of my great gran Annie Louisa Armstrong 30 july 1902 Australia and of Alice Ethel Armstrong 25 January 1902 Australia who I was told by family that was her sister,Annie had her mother as Louisa Bertram and Alice just had Louisa (no name) but they both had her occupation as a hairdresser.
I don't have any marriage certificates for 1877.
Cheryl

Cheryl

Cheryl Report 17 Oct 2012 14:35

Hi Chris,
Sorry I didn't answer your question both the girls wedding certs 1902 had Henry Armstrong on them.
Thank you.
Cheryl

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 17 Oct 2012 14:35

(lol, sorry Cheryl, must have edited, as you posted!, was just reading back again!)

Chris :)

Shame we can't see Image for Marriage.

Gins

Gins Report 17 Oct 2012 16:42

Hi Cheryl

There is no birth in England for Alice Ethel between 1881 - 1891, Im presuming they left for Australia at some point in that period as they dont appear on the 1891 UK census

I also cant find a birth for Alice in Australia? Could she have been born at sea?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 17 Oct 2012 16:52

Births Dec 1885 (>99%)
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Armstrong Frederick Charles Stow, S. 4a 692

(did wonder if above was son mentioned in Death notice, can't see him 1891)

NSW Birth
21738/1892 ARMSTRONG CHARLES D HENRY B LOUISA M MARRICKVILLE

(agrees with Gins, lol)

Chris :)

edits (No, forget Birth Frederick above, was son FRK. John, (smacks self!)

Gins

Gins Report 17 Oct 2012 16:52

Queensland, Australia, Passenger Lists, 1848-1912
Name: Louisa Armstrong
Age: 29
Birth Year: abt 1855
Ship Name: Waroonga
Port of departure: Plymouth, England
Port of arrival: Cooktown
Arrival Date: 10 Jun 1884

Queensland, Australia, Passenger Lists, 1848-1912
Name: H J B Armstrong
Age: 38
Birth Year: abt 1846
Ship Name: Waroonga
Port of departure: Plymouth, England
Port of arrival: Cooktown
Arrival Date: 10 Jun 1884

Queensland, Australia, Passenger Lists, 1848-1912
Name: Anne Armstrong
Age: 6
Birth Year: abt 1878
Ship Name: Waroonga
Port of departure: Plymouth, England
Port of arrival: Cooktown
Arrival Date: 10 Jun 1884


Queensland, Australia, Passenger Lists, 1848-1912
about Harry Armstrong
Name: Harry Armstrong
Age: 3
Birth Year: abt 1881
Ship Name: Waroonga
Port of departure: Plymouth, England
Port of arrival: Cooktown
Arrival Date: 10 Jun 1884

Queensland, Australia, Passenger Lists, 1848-1912
Name: Fred Armstrong
Age: 1
Birth Year: abt 1883
Ship Name: Waroonga
Port of departure: Plymouth, England
Port of arrival: Cooktown
Arrival Date: 10 Jun 1884



Edit: Chris, seems you were right about Fred :-)

Ooh, hang on, Freds birth was registered in Dec 1885 and the above sailing is 1884 :-S