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Lorri
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18 Oct 2012 02:17 |
I am trying to trace relatives of George Collier c 1911 who was born and lived in Bethnal Green, and whose father was Alfred Henry Collier , mother was Esther nee Rankin. Many Thanks, Lorraine
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18 Oct 2012 03:14 |
Household transcription 1911 census Printer friendly version Report transcription change Search criteria used Person: COLLIER, George Address: 58 St Peter St Bethnal Green
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where born Image COLLIER, Alfred Head Married M 31 1880 Chair Carver London Bethnal Green VIEW COLLIER, Esther Wife Married10 years F 31 1880 London Bethnal Green VIEW COLLIER, Esther Daughter F 9 1902 London Bethnal Green VIEW COLLIER, James Son M 3 1908 London Bethnal Green VIEW COLLIER, George Son M 0 (8 MONTHS) 1911 London Bethnal Green VIEW
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18 Oct 2012 03:14 |
Births Sep 1910 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- COLLIER George A Bethnal G 1c 112
some more siblings
Births Dec 1912 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Collier Thomas H Rankin Bethnal G. 1c 238
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1914 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- COLLIER William E Rankin Bethnal G. 1c 193
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1917 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Collier Maria E V Rankin Bethnal G. 1c 207
found
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18 Oct 2012 03:17 |
Welcome to the boards Lorri
Are you trying to go backwards or forwards?
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Quoy
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18 Oct 2012 07:58 |
Hello and welcome Lorri
Alfred Henry Collier Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Age: 21 Spouse Name: Esther Renkin Spouse Age: 21 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 28 Oct 1900 Parish: Bethnal Green St Jude Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: James Collier Spouse Father Name: Robert Renkin Register Type: Parish Register
witness's Robert James Rankin Maria Collier
A tree on Ancestry has this
Esther Clara Collier 1903 – Jimmy Collier 1908 – 1957 Thomas Henry Collier 1912 – 1987 William Ernest Collier 1914 – 1998
death of Alfred 1917 25 Aug Age: 37 Death Lijssenthoek,Military Cemetary,Poperinge,West Vlaanderen, Belgium Riffleman, wounded in France and then moved to Belgium where he died in trenches
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Quoy
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18 Oct 2012 08:00 |
I think the person who placed the tree on Ancestry is no longer a member as she last logged in over a year ago
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Lorri
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19 Oct 2012 02:30 |
Thanks very much for the welcome Jax and Quoy . You have given me some very useful info there. I am looking to find relatives from the past and present , so it's a shame that the tree owner on Ancestry is no longer a member, never mind, will keep searching! Best of luck with your research.
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19 Oct 2012 08:17 |
Hi Lorri and welcome.
If you click on "Search" at the top.........and then click on "Search All Trees" from the drop down menu........you can then enter your ancestors details to see if any other members have your family in their trees.
If you find any connections.......you can then contact the tree owners by sending them a message.
Happy Researching.........Prickles.
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PricklyHolly
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19 Oct 2012 08:29 |
Alfred's Father James's occupation stated on his marriage record is a "Hawker"
He was deceased at the time of the marriage.
Residence at time of marriage: 7a Felix Street.
UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919 about Alfred Henry Collier Name: Alfred Henry Collier Birth Place: Bethnal Green Death Date: 25 Aug 1917 Death Location: France & Flanders Enlistment Location: Bethnal Green Rank: Rifleman Regiment: London Regiment Battalion: 17th (County of London) Battalion (Poplar and Stepney Rifles) Number: 573751 Type of Casualty: Died of wounds Theatre of War: Western European Theatre
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PricklyHolly
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19 Oct 2012 10:04 |
I think this is a strong possibilty for your Alfred........
(Alfred's birth cert would confirm)
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Alfred Henry Collier Name: Alfred Henry Collier Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1879 Registration district: Bethnal Green Inferred County: London Volume: 1c Page: 282
1881 England Census about Alfred Collier Name: Alfred Collier Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relation: Son Mother's name: Clara Collier Gender: Male Where born: B Green Civil parish: Bethnal Green County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 61 Fournier St Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Bethnal Green Sub-registration district: Bethnal Town ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 433 Folio: 14 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age Clara Collier 39 (Married) Hawker......Spitalfields (Possibly 34 on the image) Charles Collier 7 Maria Collier 6 Alfred Collier 1
Clara remarries.......
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Clara Collier Name: Clara Collier Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Age: 38 (Widow) Spouse Name: Thomas Button Spouse Age: 44 (Widower) Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 25 Nov 1884 Parish: Bethnal Green St Jude Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: Charles Collier (Weaver) Dead Spouse Father Name: Stephen Button (Sawyer) Dead Register Type: Parish Register Witnesses: Joseph Cooper and Sarah Hardurick
The children have the surname Button in 1891...........
1891 England Census about Clara Button Name: Clara Button Age: 44 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Thomas Button Gender: Female Where born: Spitalfields, London, England Civil parish: Bethnal Green Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Bethnal Green Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green North ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 256 Folio: 59 Page Number: 25 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Button 50 Clara Button 44 Joseph Button 22 Charles Button 17 Maria Button 14 Alfred Button 11 <<<<<<< Mary Ann Button 9 Clara Button 5
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19 Oct 2012 10:20 |
1871.............mistranscribed........
1871 England Census about Clara Colyer Name: Clara Colyer Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: James Colyer Gender: Female Where born: Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Civil parish: St Matthew Bethnal Green Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillip County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Bethnal Green Sub-registration district: Bethnal Town ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Household schedule number: 323 Piece: 501 Folio: 75 Page Number: 54 Household Members: Name Age James Colyer 34 (Hawker) Clara Colyer 22 Mary Ann Colyer 5 James Colyer 1
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about James Collier Name: James Collier Age: Full Age (Bachelor) Carpet Weaver Spouse Name: Clara Collier Age: Minor (Spinster) Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 7 Sep 1863 Parish: Bethnal Green St Matthew Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: Joseph Collier (Weaver) Spouse Father Name: Charles Collier (Weaver) Register Type: Parish Register Witnesses: Charles Collier and Mary Ann Collier
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PricklyHolly
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19 Oct 2012 10:28 |
James in 1881...........
1881 England Census about James Collier Name: James Collier Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Relation: Pauper Gender: Male Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Bethnal Green County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: "Bethnal Green Workhouse" Waterloo Road Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Hawker Registration district: Bethnal Green Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green ED, institution, or vessel: Bethnal Green Workhouse 2 James Collier 48 Married (Hawker)
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19 Oct 2012 11:16 |
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about James Collier Name: James Collier Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1882 Age at Death: 49 Registration district: Bethnal Green Inferred County: London Volume: 1c Page: 183
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19 Oct 2012 11:31 |
1901 England Census about Clara Button Name: Clara Button Age: 54 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Thomas Button Gender: Female Where born: Bethnal Green, London, England Civil parish: Shoreditch St Leonard Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Stonebridge County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Shoreditch Sub-registration district: Haggerston ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 211 Piece: 278 Folio: 143 Page Number: 29 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Button 60 Clara Button 54 Mary Ann Button 19 Clara Button 15 Thomas J Button 7
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Clara Button Name: Clara Button Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1904 Age at Death: 57 Registration district: Bethnal Green Inferred County: London Volume: 1c Page: 94
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19 Oct 2012 11:47 |
Household transcription 1911 census Person: BUTTON, Thomas Address: 56 Maidstone ST
BUTTON, Thomas Head Widower M 70 1841 Hawker Shoreditch VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 1373 Reference: RG14PN1373 RG78PN48 RD16 SD3 ED10 SN246 Registration District: Shoreditch Sub District: Shoreditch North East Enumeration District: 10 Parish: Shoreditch Address: 56 Maidstone ST County: London
Son Thomas.........
Household transcription 1911 census Person: BUTTON, Thomas Institution: Padcroft Boy's Home London Diocesan Police Court Mission Home For First Offenders
BUTTON, Thomas Inmate Single M 18 1893 Carpenters Boy London Bethnal Green VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 6762 Reference: RG14PN6762 RD127 SD1 ED5 SN65 Registration District: Uxbridge Sub District: Hillingdon Enumeration District: 5 Parish: Yiewsley Address: Padcroft Yiewsley County: Middlesex
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19 Oct 2012 12:12 |
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Clara Elizabeth Button Name: Clara Elizabeth Button Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886 Age: 25 (Spinster) Spouse Name: Frederick Bond Spouse Age: 27 (Bachelor) French Polisher Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 6 Aug 1911 Parish: Bethnal Green St Paul Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: Thomas Button (Fish Hawker) Spouse Father Name: George Bond (Book Finisher) Register Type: Parish Register Witnesses: Ernest Victor Dutton and Mary Ann Dutton
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PricklyHolly
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19 Oct 2012 14:41 |
It seems the witnesses at Clara Elizabeth's wedding was her Sister and her Sisters husband..........
Marriages Dec 1902 (>99%) Collier Mary Ann Bethnal G. 1c 477 Dutton Ernest Victor Bethnal G. 1c 477
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PricklyHolly
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19 Oct 2012 14:46 |
Household transcription 1911 census Person: DUTTON, Ernest Victor Address: 147 Gossett St B Green NE
DUTTON, Ernest Victor Head Married M 31 1880 French Polisher Middlesex Parish Hackney VIEW DUTTON, Maryann Wife Married9 years F 29 1882 London Bethanl Green VIEW COLLIER, Maria Sister In Law Single F 34 1877 Laundress London Bethanl Green VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 1385 Reference: RG14PN1385 RG78PN49 RD17 SD1 ED4 SN655 Registration District: Bethnal Green Sub District: Bethnal Green North East Enumeration District: 4 Parish: Bethnal Green Address: 147 Gossett St B Green NE County: London (Children None)
Maria appears as Collier in the 1881 and Button in the 1891.
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Lorri
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20 Oct 2012 00:15 |
Hi Prickles, Thank you so much for all of the info, am just going through it now :)
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20 Oct 2012 10:49 |
My pleasure. :-)
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