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Colliers from Bethnal Green, East London.

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Lorri

Lorri Report 18 Oct 2012 02:17

I am trying to trace relatives of George Collier c 1911 who was born and lived in Bethnal Green, and whose father was Alfred Henry Collier , mother was Esther nee Rankin. Many Thanks, Lorraine

jax

jax Report 18 Oct 2012 03:14

Household transcription
1911 census

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Person: COLLIER, George
Address: 58 St Peter St Bethnal Green

Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where born Image
COLLIER, Alfred Head Married M 31 1880 Chair Carver London Bethnal Green VIEW
COLLIER, Esther Wife Married10 years F 31 1880 London Bethnal Green VIEW
COLLIER, Esther Daughter F 9 1902 London Bethnal Green VIEW
COLLIER, James Son M 3 1908 London Bethnal Green VIEW
COLLIER, George Son M 0 (8 MONTHS) 1911 London Bethnal Green VIEW

jax

jax Report 18 Oct 2012 03:14

Births Sep 1910 (>99%)
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COLLIER George A Bethnal G 1c 112

some more siblings

Births Dec 1912 (>99%)
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Collier Thomas H Rankin Bethnal G. 1c 238

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Births Dec 1914 (>99%)
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COLLIER William E Rankin Bethnal G. 1c 193

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Births Mar 1917 (>99%)
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Collier Maria E V Rankin Bethnal G. 1c 207

found

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

jax

jax Report 18 Oct 2012 03:17

Welcome to the boards Lorri

Are you trying to go backwards or forwards?

Quoy

Quoy Report 18 Oct 2012 07:58

Hello and welcome Lorri

Alfred Henry Collier
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Age: 21
Spouse Name: Esther Renkin
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 28 Oct 1900
Parish: Bethnal Green St Jude
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: James Collier
Spouse Father Name: Robert Renkin
Register Type: Parish Register


witness's Robert James Rankin
Maria Collier

A tree on Ancestry has this



Esther Clara Collier
1903 –
Jimmy Collier
1908 – 1957
Thomas Henry Collier
1912 – 1987
William Ernest Collier
1914 – 1998


death of Alfred
1917
25 Aug
Age: 37
Death
Lijssenthoek,Military Cemetary,Poperinge,West Vlaanderen, Belgium
Riffleman, wounded in France and then moved to Belgium where he died in trenches

Quoy

Quoy Report 18 Oct 2012 08:00

I think the person who placed the tree on Ancestry is no longer a member as she last logged in over a year ago

Lorri

Lorri Report 19 Oct 2012 02:30

Thanks very much for the welcome Jax and Quoy . You have given me some very useful info there. I am looking to find relatives from the past and present , so it's a shame that the tree owner on Ancestry is no longer a member, never mind, will keep searching! Best of luck with your research.



PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 19 Oct 2012 08:17

Hi Lorri and welcome.

If you click on "Search" at the top.........and then click on "Search All Trees" from the drop down menu........you can then enter your ancestors details to see if any other members have your family in their trees.

If you find any connections.......you can then contact the tree owners by sending them a message.

Happy Researching.........Prickles.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 19 Oct 2012 08:29

Alfred's Father James's occupation stated on his marriage record is a "Hawker"

He was deceased at the time of the marriage.

Residence at time of marriage: 7a Felix Street.



UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
about Alfred Henry Collier
Name: Alfred Henry Collier
Birth Place: Bethnal Green
Death Date: 25 Aug 1917
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Bethnal Green
Rank: Rifleman
Regiment: London Regiment
Battalion: 17th (County of London) Battalion (Poplar and Stepney Rifles)
Number: 573751
Type of Casualty: Died of wounds
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre





PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 19 Oct 2012 10:04

I think this is a strong possibilty for your Alfred........


(Alfred's birth cert would confirm)



England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Alfred Henry Collier
Name: Alfred Henry Collier
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1879
Registration district: Bethnal Green
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 282





1881 England Census
about Alfred Collier
Name: Alfred Collier
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Clara Collier
Gender: Male
Where born: B Green

Civil parish: Bethnal Green
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 61 Fournier St
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Bethnal Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 433
Folio: 14
Page Number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
Clara Collier 39 (Married) Hawker......Spitalfields (Possibly 34 on the image)
Charles Collier 7
Maria Collier 6
Alfred Collier 1


Clara remarries.......


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Clara Collier
Name: Clara Collier
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Age: 38 (Widow)
Spouse Name: Thomas Button
Spouse Age: 44 (Widower)
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Nov 1884
Parish: Bethnal Green St Jude
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Charles Collier (Weaver) Dead
Spouse Father Name: Stephen Button (Sawyer) Dead
Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses: Joseph Cooper and Sarah Hardurick


The children have the surname Button in 1891...........


1891 England Census
about Clara Button
Name: Clara Button
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas Button
Gender: Female
Where born: Spitalfields, London, England

Civil parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green North
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 256
Folio: 59
Page Number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Button 50
Clara Button 44
Joseph Button 22
Charles Button 17
Maria Button 14
Alfred Button 11 <<<<<<<
Mary Ann Button 9
Clara Button 5




PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 19 Oct 2012 10:20

1871.............mistranscribed........


1871 England Census
about Clara Colyer
Name: Clara Colyer
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James Colyer
Gender: Female
Where born: Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Matthew Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillip
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Bethnal Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Household schedule number: 323
Piece: 501
Folio: 75
Page Number: 54
Household Members: Name Age
James Colyer 34 (Hawker)
Clara Colyer 22
Mary Ann Colyer 5
James Colyer 1



London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about James Collier
Name: James Collier
Age: Full Age (Bachelor) Carpet Weaver
Spouse Name: Clara Collier Age: Minor (Spinster)
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 7 Sep 1863
Parish: Bethnal Green St Matthew
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Joseph Collier (Weaver)
Spouse Father Name: Charles Collier (Weaver)
Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses: Charles Collier and Mary Ann Collier


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 19 Oct 2012 10:28

James in 1881...........

1881 England Census
about James Collier
Name: James Collier
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Pauper
Gender: Male
Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Bethnal Green
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: "Bethnal Green Workhouse" Waterloo Road
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Hawker

Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green
ED, institution, or vessel: Bethnal Green Workhouse 2

James Collier 48 Married (Hawker)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 19 Oct 2012 11:16

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about James Collier
Name: James Collier
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1882
Age at Death: 49
Registration district: Bethnal Green
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 183

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 19 Oct 2012 11:31

1901 England Census
about Clara Button
Name: Clara Button
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas Button
Gender: Female
Where born: Bethnal Green, London, England

Civil parish: Shoreditch St Leonard
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Stonebridge
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Haggerston
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 211
Piece: 278
Folio: 143
Page Number: 29
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Button 60
Clara Button 54
Mary Ann Button 19
Clara Button 15
Thomas J Button 7



England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Clara Button
Name: Clara Button
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1904
Age at Death: 57
Registration district: Bethnal Green
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 94

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 19 Oct 2012 11:47

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: BUTTON, Thomas
Address: 56 Maidstone ST

BUTTON, Thomas Head Widower M 70 1841 Hawker Shoreditch VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 1373
Reference: RG14PN1373 RG78PN48 RD16 SD3 ED10 SN246
Registration District: Shoreditch
Sub District: Shoreditch North East
Enumeration District: 10
Parish: Shoreditch
Address: 56 Maidstone ST
County: London



Son Thomas.........


Household transcription
1911 census

Person: BUTTON, Thomas
Institution: Padcroft Boy's Home London Diocesan Police Court Mission Home For First Offenders

BUTTON, Thomas Inmate Single M 18 1893 Carpenters Boy London Bethnal Green VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 6762
Reference: RG14PN6762 RD127 SD1 ED5 SN65
Registration District: Uxbridge
Sub District: Hillingdon
Enumeration District: 5
Parish: Yiewsley
Address: Padcroft Yiewsley
County: Middlesex

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 19 Oct 2012 12:12

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Clara Elizabeth Button
Name: Clara Elizabeth Button
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Age: 25 (Spinster)
Spouse Name: Frederick Bond
Spouse Age: 27 (Bachelor) French Polisher
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 6 Aug 1911
Parish: Bethnal Green St Paul
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Thomas Button (Fish Hawker)
Spouse Father Name: George Bond (Book Finisher)
Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses: Ernest Victor Dutton and Mary Ann Dutton

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 19 Oct 2012 14:41

It seems the witnesses at Clara Elizabeth's wedding was her Sister and her Sisters husband..........


Marriages Dec 1902 (>99%)

Collier Mary Ann Bethnal G. 1c 477
Dutton Ernest Victor Bethnal G. 1c 477

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 19 Oct 2012 14:46

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: DUTTON, Ernest Victor
Address: 147 Gossett St B Green NE

DUTTON, Ernest Victor Head Married M 31 1880 French Polisher Middlesex Parish Hackney VIEW
DUTTON, Maryann Wife Married9 years F 29 1882 London Bethanl Green VIEW
COLLIER, Maria Sister In Law Single F 34 1877 Laundress London Bethanl Green VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 1385
Reference: RG14PN1385 RG78PN49 RD17 SD1 ED4 SN655
Registration District: Bethnal Green
Sub District: Bethnal Green North East
Enumeration District: 4
Parish: Bethnal Green
Address: 147 Gossett St B Green NE
County: London
(Children None)


Maria appears as Collier in the 1881 and Button in the 1891.

Lorri

Lorri Report 20 Oct 2012 00:15

Hi Prickles, Thank you so much for all of the info, am just going through it now :)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Oct 2012 10:49

My pleasure. :-)