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Ann jane smith married William machin 1st dec 1901,salford.....the thing is i cannot find her after this marriage....can any-one help please,thanks :-)

Hi Cane,

How are you doing?

It could have been worse you know - if she had become a Smith by marriage :-D :-D :-D

Will have a look for you.

xJ

For Ref

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1901 (>99%)
CHAPMAN Edward Ware Salford 8d 142
Machin William Salford 8d 142
McCULLOCH Ada Salford 8d 142
SMITH Ann Jane Salford 8d 142

How old where they when they married ?

His occupation would be useful

This fits perhaps.

It reads better if you look at the original.

William, Ann and Ellen's info starts on line 6 of the document. Line 5 has been left blank after the previous family. Maybe there were two sharing one house. The original has been signed by Thomas.

They might be related of course. I've got a 1911 where someone is shown as a boarder but is actually the fil.

1911 Census Household Record
Household information
Address 42 Robertson St Salford
Parish Salford
Town Salford
Type of Building Private House
Number of Rooms Five
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN24069 RG78PN1384 RD465 SD4 ED26 SN275
Administrative County Lancashire
Registration District Salford
Registration Sub District Regent Road
Enumeration District 26
Householder 1
Name Thomas Leigh
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Condition / Years Married Married
Gender M
Age 48
Estimated Year of Birth 1863
Occupation Dock Labourer
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Grappenhall Cheshire
Householder 2
Name Susannah Leigh
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Condition / Years Married Married / 19 Years
Total Children Born Alive 6
Children Still Living 3
Children Who Have Died 3
Gender F
Age 46
Estimated Year of Birth 1865
Occupation Housewife
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Manchester Lancashire
Householder 3
Name Jenny Leigh
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Condition / Years Married Not Married
Gender F
Age 15
Estimated Year of Birth 1896
Occupation Stationary Maker
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Manchester Lancashire
Householder 4
Name Florence Leigh
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Condition / Years Married Not Married
Gender F
Age 11
Estimated Year of Birth 1900
Occupation School
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Salford Lancashire
Householder 5
Name William Machin
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Condition / Years Married Yes
Gender M
Age 31
Estimated Year of Birth 1880
Occupation Carter
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry Carrier
Place of Birth Manchester Lancashire
Householder 6
Name Ann Jane Machin
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Condition / Years Married Yes
Total Children Born Alive 1
Children Still Living 1
Gender F
Age 33
Estimated Year of Birth 1878
Occupation Housewife
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Pendleton Lancashire
Householder 7
Name Ellen Elizabeth Machin
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 9
Estimated Year of Birth 1902
Occupation School
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Salford Lancashire

Hi luv....ime doing ok....well thats what i like to call it,.hope you are both well and happy xxx
Thank's for taking a look for me ha ha she actually did become a smith by marriage as her first marriage was to my gt.nan's brother "Henry smith"...but yes i know what you mean as i am from a long line of "smiths" pset they are too x

hi Glitter she was 22yrs old when she married

Hi

Is she likely to have any children called Smith with her

Maureen

Glad to hear all okay with you. And yes, we are still happy thanks.

Census would fit with her yob. Can keep looking if you think it's not the right one.

Take care and keep in touch. Send me a pm when you feel able.

xxJ

would it be possible if you could find a death or poss another marriage for her,as am having probs with this thanks

Hi Glitter...i have checked for children,Henry died sep Q 1899 age 23yrs...there could have been a child but dont think i will ever find him or her
Henry smith and Ann jane were married on 19th aug 1897...in salford

its the right one Jill x

How many men and marriages did this woman go through? :-D :-D :-D

Edit. Glad to know it's the right 1911

ha,ha.....i was thinking that she may have married again as i cannot find death details for her with name machin....poss she did die as machin but my ancestry ran out...so cant search...

Silly thing. I'll always try and look something up for you. Although I'm not sure how good I am to find Smith stuff. :-S I've only got GR though, not Anc

tis ok...you have been a goog help with the census info :-D

Well I've found something which fits but it is, as we say in our household 'Pure journalistic speculation' so obviously it's nothing until you've proved it right or wrong.

I found this marriage in 1930 for an Ann J Machin

Surname First name(s) Mother/Spouse/Age District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1930 (>99%)
Aldred Arthur Horsfall Bury 8c 887
Horsfall Gladys Aldred Bury 8c 887
Hulton Frank Machin Bury 8c 887
Machin Ann J Hulton Bury 8c 887

Then I looked for a possible death for William. I assumed death rather than divorce which I felt less likely - and couldn't look anything up for it anyway.

Because Ann J shown above married in Bury which in Lancs, I figured it was sensible to look for a death for William in Lancashire too.

This one does it and fits with his apparent age with the 1911

Deaths Dec 1921 (>99%)
Machin William 42 Bury 8c 563

Free BMD has four possible deaths for Frank Hulton up until 1946. Need to try and find him on a census to ascertain possible age.

Found this death for Ann J. It fits with her yob.

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Dec 1946 (>99%)
Hulton Ann J 68 Barton 10b 310

Again. All guesswork but gives you a possible timeline if you can prove this Ann J is yours.

Have fun.

xxJ

thanks Jill..i will work through it xx

Going sideways. Have you done anything to work out William Machen's tree? Might provide a link to a tree on here.

No...i never thought of that.hey thanks ...xx