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22 Nov 2012 06:03 |
Reggie, Susan & Jude Apologies for not coming back to you sooner. Thank you for taking the time in looking at this for me.
Reggie - Yes, I have thought of that, but cannot locate one in Flintshire, I know he could have died elsewhere, need to look into that.
Susan - No he doesn't have a middle name.
Jude - Yes that is the family, his only sibling is Robert, his parents married in 1862. Ann's death is Deaths Sep 1903 (>99%) Parry Ann 72 Holywell 11b 145
I am going to send for this certificate hoping that John registered the death, but Robert didn't marry until 1905, so he was at home too.
Thanks again.
Jo
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17 Nov 2012 11:44 |
Guessing this is his father's death
Deaths Jun 1877 (>99%) Parry Robert 57 Holywell 11b 200
and one of these his mother's Deaths Mar 1903 (>99%) Parry Ann 72 Holywell 11b 158 Deaths Sep 1903 (>99%) Parry Ann 72 Holywell 11b 145
So 1871?? Name: Robert Parry Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Parry Gender: Male Where born: Flint, Flintshire, Wales Civil parish: Flint Town: Flint County/Island: Flintshire Country: Wales Registration district: Holywell Sub-registration district: Flint ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household schedule number: 207 Piece: 5644 Folio: 67 Page Number: 30 Household Members: Name Age Robert Parry 51 Ann Parry 39
1881 Name: Ann Parry Age: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Bagillt, Flintshire, Wales Civil parish: Flint County/Island: Flintshire Country: Wales Street Address: Swan Lane Education: View image Employment status: View image Occupation: Housekeeper & Keep Lodgers Registration district: Holywell Sub-registration district: Flint ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 5506 Folio: 24 Page Number: 42 Household Members: Name Age Ann Parry 49 Robert Parry 7 John Parry 3 Thomas Pickering 32 Margaret Thomas 63 View original image View blank
1891 Name: Ann Parry Age: 59 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Flintshire, Wales Civil parish: Flint Ecclesiastical parish: Flint Town: Flint County/Island: Flintshire Country: Wales Street Address: View image Condition as to marriage: View image Education: View image Employment status: View image Occupation: View image Registration district: Holywell Sub-registration district: Flint ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4608 Folio: 47 Page Number: 39 Household Members: Name Age Ann Parry 59 Robert Parry 17 John Parry 13 So my guess is IF THIS IS THEM, only sibling is Robert
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17 Nov 2012 06:16 |
There is also this one ...living with A sister Emma ? 1911
1911 Wales Census about John Parry Name: John Parry Age in 1911: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Leeswood, Mold, Flintshire, Wales Civil parish: Mold County/Island: Flintshire Country: Wales Street Address: 16 Vale View Leeswood Mold Marital Status: Single Occupation: Platelayer Registration district: Holywell Registration District Number: 619 Sub-registration district: Mold ED, institution, or vessel: 08 Household schedule number: 242 Piece: 33956 Household Members: Name Age John Parry 35 Emma Parry 28 .......................................... There is also this one.... Mother Anne a widow different siblings . Can you let us know who his Siblings were if you know that is. This John has a middle name beginning with P
1891 Wales Census about John P Parry Name: John P Parry Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Ann Parry Gender: Male Where born: Flint Civil parish: Flint Ecclesiastical parish: Flint Town: Flint County/Island: Flintshire Country: Wales Street Address: View image Condition as to marriage: View image Education: View image Employment status: View image Occupation: View image Registration district: Holywell Sub-registration district: Flint ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4608 Folio: 53 Page Number: 52 Household Members: Name Age Ann Parry 40 <<<<Widow John P Parry 15 <<<Coal Hewer William J Parry 10 Sarah E Parry 11 Mary C Parry 7
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17 Nov 2012 05:55 |
Have you looked at this one .
1911 Wales Census about John William Parry Name: John William Parry Age in 1911: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Buckley, Flint Civil parish: Sker, Kenfig and Pyle County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street Address: Evergreen Cottage Maudlam Pyle Nr Bridgend Glam Marital Status: Married Years Married: 7 Estimated Marriage Year: 1904 Occupation: Coal Miner Repairer Registration district: Bridgend Registration District Number: 591 Sub-registration district: Bridgend ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Household schedule number: 104 Piece: 32587 Household Members: Name Age John William Parry 34 Sarah Parry 39
Married 1904 ? No children and married 7 years...it would fit with him being with his mother 1901 and her passing 1903.
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14 Nov 2012 12:56 |
How did you get back to John c1877?
If it wasn't through descendants, have you considered that he may have died?
Did he register his mother's death?
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14 Nov 2012 04:28 |
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1 Nov 2012 04:30 |
Hi Susan Thank you for taking the time to research this for me. I have found that John in Bagillt, but he states his father as Thomas on the marriage certificate. Thanks again. Jo
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29 Oct 2012 08:22 |
In the 1901 Census with his Mother he is a Coal hewer,the same as the 1911 posted above.
1901 Wales Census about John Parry Name: John Parry Age in 1901: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation: Son Mother's name: Ann Parry Gender: Male Where born: Flint, Flintshire, Wales Civil parish: Flint Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Flint County/Island: Flintshire Country: Wales Street Address: 31 Swan St Condition as to marriage: View image Education: View image Employment status: View image Occupation: View image <<<<<Coal Hewer Registration district: Holywell Sub-registration district: Flint ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 246 Piece: 5212 Folio: 125 Page Number: 37 Household Members: Name Age Ann Parry 70 Robert Parry 27 John Parry 24 George Logan 8
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29 Oct 2012 08:10 |
A Possible.
1911 Wales Census about John Parry Name: John Parry Age in 1911: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Flint, Flintshire, Wales Civil parish: Holywell County/Island: Flintshire Country: Wales Street Address: 3 Boatmans Row Bagillt Flintshire Marital Status: Married Years Married: 7 Estimated Marriage Year: 1904 Occupation: Collier (hewer) Registration district: Holywell Registration District Number: 619 Sub-registration district: Holywell ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Household schedule number: 59 Piece: 33924 Household Members: Name Age John Parry 34 Lizzie Parry 32 Thomas Parry 6 Leah Parry 4 Mary E Parry 2
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29 Oct 2012 04:14 |
Hi Lynski Firstly my apologies for not getting back to you sooner. Thank you very much for the information that is certainly a possibility. I will look into it further. Thanks again. Best regards Jo
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26 Oct 2012 09:57 |
The two children who died are actually listed and crossed out on the original census -
Lillian Mary Parry, 5 Elsie Mary Parry, 2
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26 Oct 2012 09:48 |
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1911 census -
PARRY, John Head Married M 34 1877 Dock Labourer Flints Holywell VIEW PARRY, Maria Jane Wife Married7 years F 29 1882 Flints Mold VIEW PARRY, Phoebe Maud Daughter F 6 1905 School Lancs Liverpool VIEW
RG number: RG14 Piece: 22219 Reference: RG14PN22219 RG78PN1314 RD454 SD1 ED8 SN322 Registration District: Toxteth Park Sub District: Toxteth Park North West Enumeration District: 8 Parish: Toxteth Park Address: 47 Mission Hall Hyslop Street Liverpool S County: Lancashire
Original census states 3 children born, 2 died.
????????? Marriages Dec 1903 (>99%) PARRY John Liverpool 8b 256 PARRY Maria Jane Liverpool 8b 256
Other children????????
Births Sep 1914 (>99%) Parry James Parry Toxteth P. 8b 246
Births Sep 1917 (>99%) Parry Winifred Parry Toxteth P. 8b 330
Births Dec 1918 (98%) Parry Harriet Parry Toxteth P. 8b 318
Births Sep 1921 (>99%) Parry Robert Parry Toxteth P. 8b 423
A son called Robert, after his father perhaps???
Obviously, you would have to get some certificates or use the "Search all trees" function under the Search button above to start writing to other members to see if you have a connection.
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26 Oct 2012 09:38 |
1881 census for reference -
PARRY, Ann Head Widow F 49 1832 Housekeeper & Keep Lodgers Bagillt, Flintshire, Wales VIEW PARRY, Robert Son Single M 7 1874 Scholar Flint, Flintshire, Wales VIEW PARRY, John Son Single M 3 1878 Flint, Flintshire, Wales VIEW PICKERING, Thomas Lodger Single M 32 1849 Labourer In Chemical Works Mold, Flintshire, Wales VIEW THOMAS, Margaret Lodger Widow F 63 1818 St George Parish ((M?)), Cheshire VIEW
Piece: 5506 Folio: 24 Page: 42 Registration District: Holywell Civil Parish: Flint Municipal Borough: Address: Swan Lane, Flint County: Flintshire
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26 Oct 2012 07:10 |
I am looking for information on John Parry born c1877 in Flint Flintshire, son of Robert Parry and Ann Roberts. His father died around his birth in 1877. I have found him on the censuses up to and including 1901 with his mother Ann, Ann died in 1903. I cannot locate John on the 1911 census. The John Parry on the 1911 with Lizzie his wife was married in 1903 and he states his father as Thomas. There is a John Parry with father Thomas born in Flint in 1877 (1891 census), so I would take it that this is him on the 1911 census. Can anyone help me locate him on the 1911 census please? Thanks in advance Jo
Update I have received the marriage certificate for the marriage so kindly found by Lynski. Unfortunately he states his father as Thomas too and have found him with his family on the 1881 census, so I am ruling this one out too. So any further help in finding my John would be appreciated please. Thanks again Jo
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