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Reggie

Reggie Report 27 Dec 2012 09:16

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1316424

Potty

Potty Report 28 Oct 2012 10:34

Does the marriage cert give an occupation for Henry Robert's father?

mgnv

mgnv Report 28 Oct 2012 02:51

Ontario births aren't public records for 97y - however, your hubby can apply for a b.cert with proof of his father's death - for details, see:
http://www.ontario.ca/en/information_bundle/individuals/119276

To apply, see:
https://www.orgforms.gov.on.ca/eForms/start.do?lang=en

The next (1921) Ontario census won't be released until 2014.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 27 Oct 2012 22:48

This may well be a complete red herring but I am wondering about this man?


1911

Name: Sydney Robert Turner
Age in 1911: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hill, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Deptford St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 98 Drakefell Road, New Cross, S E
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: DECORATIVE DESIGNER
Registration district: Greenwich
Registration District Number: 28
Sub-registration district: Deptford South
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Piece: 2650
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Jerome Turner 54 Headmaster
Emily Turner Turner 55
Sydney Robert Turner 30
Guy Thomas Turner 20 Decorative designer
Robert Turner 87 Father

Births Dec 1880 TURNER Sydney Robert Reigate 2a 162


Sydney Robert Turner's occupation in 1950 at the time of his father's death is an architect.

Name: Henry Jerome Turner
Probate Date: 3 May 1951
Death Date: 19 Dec 1950
Death Place: Surrey, England
Registry: London, England


Name: Sydney Robert Turner
Birth Date: 17 Nov 1880
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1972
Age at Death: 91
Registration district: Sutton
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5e
Page: 725



Any idea when your Henry Robert Turner died please?

Fiona

Fiona Report 27 Oct 2012 21:56

Thanks for all your help Jan its a mine field. :-)

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 27 Oct 2012 21:52

It doesn't look like you can access these online. I am not certain, but having had a look around i think records might be at the Surrey History Centre - if not, they will be able to tell you where they are:



Surrey History Centre, 130 Goldsworth Road, Woking, Surrey GU21 6ND

01483 518737

shs@surreycc.gov.uk

www.surreycc.gov.uk/surreyhistorycentre


Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 27 Oct 2012 20:28

I am not sure if electoral register will be online for Kew. I know London ones are. Tell you what, I shall put out a general query and get back to you.
If not the only option is to inquire at the place the registers are kept - usually nearest main library.
Speak to you in a minute.
Jan

Fiona

Fiona Report 27 Oct 2012 18:54

Hi Jan Do you mean ask for a electrol search on here sorry but iam a bit green with all this. i have mastered the art of the census if I have enough info but anything else iam unsure of how to trace people.

thanks

fiona

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 27 Oct 2012 18:43

There was an Alice Voaden living there 1911 so no use. Some Turners were living along the road, but this is a fairly common name so I suspect unrelated. Will put them anyway!
Suggest you try asking for an electoral register search nearer the time they married, maybe they will be nice and do it for free!

1911 England Census

Name: William Turner
Age in 1911: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Coggs, Near Witney, Oxon
Civil parish: Kew
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address: 61 Gloucester Road, Kew
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Bath Chair Proprietor
Registration district: Richmond
Registration District Number: 41
Sub-registration district: Richmond

William Turner 70
Rebecca Turner 59
Henry John Turner 27
Mary Eliza Crocker 41

Jan

Fiona

Fiona Report 27 Oct 2012 18:28

Hi thanks Jan Ithought he was a bit old for his first marriage but it definatley says age 48 on marriage certificate the address for both henry and alice is writen as 9 Gloucester Road Kew. I would like to find out when they went to canada and returned too. the Jeannette you found seems to be Jean Andre(1930) sister. I am in england but at the other end of the country!!! Getting inof from other family menbers id virtually nil either they dont want to know or just can`t remeber i hope its the latter.

thanks

Fiona

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 26 Oct 2012 22:53

Just one more query! Did his the family then return to the UK - I assume you have this?

Births Jun 1935 (>99%)
Turner Jeannette M De N De Neef Brighton 2b 231

If you are over here, you might be able to investigate the electoral register in person - if near enough!

jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 26 Oct 2012 22:13

If you have an address for him, put it here, you never know, might be a clue 1911 (latest available census) though timespan a bit too much to be of use I suspect.
Unless it is London I don't think anyone will be able to search the electoral register online. It might be possible to ask staff where records are kept to have a look. Other household members might offer a clue (or not!).
I assume you are certain of age, he was rather old for a 1st marriage?
Jan

Fiona

Fiona Report 26 Oct 2012 22:07

oh god im so stupid it says batchlor. marriage was in richmond register officecounty of surrey 27th july 1928 witness where both called smith one initial i cant make out and the other looks like f.

thanks Iam new to this help up until now i have managed to do all my own research. but with my father in law been born in canda has made my search difficult. I am retiring for the night now so any replies wont be seen until i return.

thanks everyone

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 26 Oct 2012 21:49

It should say if he was a bachelor or widower. Doesn't matter too much but any bit of evidence might offer a clue!
Do you have an address on the cert?
ADDED names of witnesses too please.
Jan

Fiona

Fiona Report 26 Oct 2012 21:35

I dont know I have only been given marriage and death certificates by my mother in law dont think anyone knows any more info soz.

fiona

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 26 Oct 2012 21:30

Another question! Had he been married previously?
Jan

Fiona

Fiona Report 26 Oct 2012 21:30

HI jan yes it says on marriage certifiate Decorative artist an on his death cert it says retired decorating contractor.

thnaks

fiona

Dea

Dea Report 26 Oct 2012 21:28

For reference:

Marriages Sep 1928
De Neef Alice G Turner Richmond S. 2a 1633
TURNER Henry R DE NEEF Richmond S. 2a 1633


Fiona, can you please delete your other thread and we can continue on here.

Thanks,

Dea Xxx

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 26 Oct 2012 21:28

2 births for that period:

Births Dec 1881 (>99%)
TURNER Henry Robert C Pancras 1b 124

Births Mar 1881 (>99%)
TURNER Henry Robert Chesterfield 7b 734

Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 26 Oct 2012 21:27

Do you have an occupation for Henry Robert?
Jan