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Alice E Gilson b circa1899 Melton Mowbray

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Susan Martin (Luckhurst)

Susan Martin (Luckhurst) Report 29 Oct 2012 15:48

Hi. I am trying to trace parents of Alice E Gilson b circa 1899.
She married William Welby in 1921
Her daughter was Kathleen Welby b 1922
They all seemed to have lived around the Leicestershire area.
Can anyone help me?

Thanks
Susan

Reggie

Reggie Report 29 Oct 2012 15:50

Her father's name will be on her marriage cert

Haven't you looked for her birth on freebmd?

Reggie

Reggie Report 29 Oct 2012 15:52

easily found

Births Jun 1899 (>99%)

Gilson Alice Emily Melton M. 7a 355

Gins

Gins Report 29 Oct 2012 15:53

??? Do you know any of her siblings?


1911 England Census
about Alice Emily Gilson
Name: Alice Emily Gilson
Age in 1911: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation to Head: Child
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Asfordby, Leicestershire, England
Civil parish: Melton Mowbray
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Street Address: 3 Cromwell Rd Melton Mowbray
Occupation: School
Registration district: Melton Mowbray
Registration District Number: 408
Sub-registration district: Melton Mowbray
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Piece: 19346
Household Members: Name Age
John Gilson 32
Annie Gilson 41
Alice Emily Gilson 12
Mabel Gilson 11
Margaret Mary Gilson 9
Kathleen Annice Gilson 7
Aulrey Harold Gilson 6
John Wilfred Gilson 3
Albert Baril Gilson 2


Reggie

Reggie Report 29 Oct 2012 15:53

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006

Name: Alice Emily Welby
Birth Date: 18 Feb 1899
Date of Registration: Nov 1992
Age at Death: 93
Registration district: Northampton
Inferred County: Northamptonshire
Volume: 7
Page: 2665

Reggie

Reggie Report 29 Oct 2012 15:54

1911 England Census

Name: Alice Emily Gilson
Age in 1911: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation to Head: Child
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Asfordby, Leicestershire, England
Civil parish: Melton Mowbray
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Street Address: 3 Cromwell Rd Melton Mowbray
Occupation: School
Registration district: Melton Mowbray
Registration District Number: 408
Sub-registration district: Melton Mowbray
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Piece: 19346
Household Members:
Name Age
John Gilson 32
Annie Gilson 41
Alice Emily Gilson 12
Mabel Gilson 11
Margaret Mary Gilson 9
Kathleen Annice Gilson 7
Aulrey Harold Gilson 6
John Wilfred Gilson 3
Albert Basil Gilson 2

Now you will be able to look for the marriage of the parents.........

Reggie

Reggie Report 29 Oct 2012 15:56

1891 England Census about John Gilson
Name: John Gilson
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Gilson
Gender: Male
Where born: Asfordby, Leicestershire, England
Civil parish: Asfordby
Ecclesiastical parish: Asfordby
Town: Asfordby
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Melton Mowbray
Sub-registration district: Melton Mowbray
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2544
Folio: 136
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Gilson 59
Thomas Gilson 24
James Gilson 21
Lizzie Gilson 15
John Gilson 12

Reggie

Reggie Report 29 Oct 2012 16:05

This is 1901....................

1901 England Census
Name: Annie Gilson
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Andrew Gilson
Gender: Female
Where born: Great Dalby, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil parish: Nottingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Nottingham South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 93
Piece: 3166
Folio: 84
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Andrew Gilson 38
Annie Gilson 31
Joshua Gilson 13
Wallace Gilson 10
Alice Gilson 2
Mabel Gilson 1
Edgar Jones 24


So John in 1911 is not the father of Alice or Mabel

Reggie

Reggie Report 29 Oct 2012 16:06

Curioser and curioser...............is anyone else willing to do some digging..........please?

1891 England Census about Andrew Joshua Gilson
Name: Andrew Joshua Gilson
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Andrew Gilson
Mother's name: Sarah Elizabeth Gilson
Gender: Male
Where born: Asfordby, Leicestershire, England
Civil parish: Asfordby
Ecclesiastical parish: Asfordby
Town: Asfordby
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Melton Mowbray
Sub-registration district: Melton Mowbray
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2544
Folio: 138
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Andrew Gilson 29
Sarah Elizabeth Gilson 26
Andrew Joshua Gilson 2
Joseph Wallace Gilson 2/12
Thomas William Foster 23

safc

safc Report 29 Oct 2012 16:09

name: Alice Emily Gilson
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 01 Apr 1899
baptism/christening place: Ashfordby, Leicester, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Andrew Gilson
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Annie
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: I02960-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 952277
reference number: v 8

Reggie

Reggie Report 29 Oct 2012 16:11

1881 England Census

Name: Andrew Gilson
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Gilson
Mother's name: Margret Gilson
Gender: Male
Where born: Asfordby, Leicestershire, England
Civil parish: Asfordby
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Street Address: Pump Lane

Occupation: Bricklayers Lab
Registration district: Melton Mowbray
Sub-registration district: Melton Mowbray
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3183
Folio: 52
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Gilson 51
Margret Gilson 47
Andrew Gilson 21
Thomas Gilson 15
Sarah J. Gilson 14
James Gilson 11
Elizabeth Gilson 5
John Gilson 2

safc

safc Report 29 Oct 2012 16:13

Marriages Jun 1884 (>99%)
Gilson Andrew Melton M. 7a *


Marriages Sep 1898 (>99%)
Gilson Andrew Melton M 7a 621
SHARPE Annie Melton M. 7a 621

Gins

Gins Report 29 Oct 2012 16:30

Deaths Mar 1894 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gilson Sarah Elizabeth 29 Melton M. 7a 211


Reggie

Reggie Report 29 Oct 2012 16:37

I wonder what happened to Andrew?

Annie was passing herself off as the wife of his youngest brother in 1911

safc

safc Report 29 Oct 2012 16:40

Deaths Jun 1906 (>99%)
Gilson Andrew 45 Melton M 7a 166

Susan Martin (Luckhurst)

Susan Martin (Luckhurst) Report 29 Oct 2012 16:48

Thanks for your help. I understood she did not have any brothers or sisters but will look into this.

Reggie

Reggie Report 29 Oct 2012 16:50

I take back my last comment....they apparently did marry,

Marriages Jun 1907 (>99%)
Gibson Annie Nottingham 7b 754a
GILSON John Nottingham 7b 754a

I wonder if GIBSON is a mistranscription, or deliberate misinformation to circumvent the law......................it's significant that they went to a neighbouring County............

safc

safc Report 29 Oct 2012 17:02

name: Mabel Gilson
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 01 Apr 1900
baptism/christening place: Ashfordby, Leicester, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Andrew Gilson
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Annie
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: I02960-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 952277
reference number: v 8

Gins

Gins Report 29 Oct 2012 17:05

Nice one Reggie


Mistranscription, or deliberate......will we ever know!

Reggie

Reggie Report 29 Oct 2012 23:10

There is no Sarah Elizabeth recorded as marrying in the same qtr/location as the 1884 marriage posted above

I've looked at the image.....the entry is hand-written and has been added at the bottom of the page on the index, and the page number is 520a, for which there is no other recorded entry