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Lorraine Karen
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2 Nov 2012 19:59 |
Reason for setting up GenesReunited FindAncestors Thread is we are trying to find father of Horace Courtenay born Earls Court 1895 & any living relatives.While researching other branches of our family using Ancestry, Find My Past & other internet research has been relatively easy with almost all births,marriages,deaths&census records being available. However, Thrasher, Jezard & Courtenay family have few births, marriages, deaths & census records that can be found on Ancestry, Find My Past or other internet research, (THANK YOU GENES REUNITED RESEARCHERS SINCE THREAD WAS POSTED WE HAVE DISCOVERED THAT ROBERT & PRISCILLA & GRACE & RUTH WERE THRASHERS & PRISCILLA REMARRIED TO JOHN JEZARD - HOWEVER, STILL RECORDS NOT ABLE TO TRACE) so we are hoping that following family groups may belong to your family & that you may be able to help solve this family mystery for us. Thank you for your help & we very much look forward to hearing from you!
We are trying to trace Thrasher/Pope family members whose ancestors are: Father: Robert Thrasher born 1832 order death 1879 Mother: Priscilla May Thrasher (Pope) (later marries as Priscilla May Jezard), born 1837 Daughter: Eliza Thrasher, 1869 Holborn Daughter: Louisa Thrasher 1874 Holborn (Louisa Thresher & married Louisa Atkins) - order birth Daughter: Ruth Thrasher (later Ruth Jezard & Ruby Jezard & married Ruby Court) born 1879 Holborn - order birth Daughter: Alice Maud Mary Thrasher (late Alice Maud Mary Jezard & Grace Alice Maud Mary Courtenay & married Grace Alice Maud Mary Solomon) born 1872 Holborn - order birth 1872
We are trying to trace Courtenay family members whose ancestors are: Father - H Courtenay (but is actually unknown as to who is he) Mother - Grace Alice Maud Mary Courtenay spinster (birth maiden name Alice Maud Mary Thrasher and & Alice Maud Mary Jezard) born 1872 Holborn Son - Horace Courtenay born 1895 Earls Court (family birthday 2 January & Latymer Upper School birthday 21 September) Grace is living at 18 Finborough Road Kensington boarding house run by Eliza Anne Chaplin in 1901 census living on own means Horace is living at 78 Hamlet Court Road, Prittlewell, Southend at the Westcliff College For Girls boarding school run by Agnes Shepherd in the 1901 census Violet Gezard (should be Jezard) is living at 78 Hamlet Court Road, Prittlewell, Southend at the Westcliff College For Girls boarding school run by Agnes Shepherd in the 1901 census Horace attends Latymer Upper School from 1906 to 1910 & the father listed is Solomon H L Courtenay (which is a combination of his step-father Herbert Lewis Solomon & his blood father H Courtenay) Horace states on his wedding certificate in 1924 that his father is H Courtenay deceased There is an old family rumour that Horace Courtenay is the illegitimate son of an Earl
We are trying to trace Solomon family members whose ancestors are:
Step-father - Herbert Lewis Solomon born 1871 Brixton Wife - Grace Alice Maud Mary Solomon (Grace Alice Maud Mary Courtenay & Alice Maud Mary Thrasher & Alice Maud Mary Jezard) born 1872 Holborn Step-son - Horace Courtenay born 1895 Earls Court Nephew - Edward Leslie Court born 1905 Fulham Herbert is living at 79 Linden Gardens Kensington in 1901 census Herbert & Grace are living at 18 Finborough Road Kensington boarding house & Robert Courtenay father is deceased on their 1901 wedding certificate in Kensington Herbert, Grace & Horace are living together at 6 Charleville Mansions in Kensington in 1906 on Latymer Upper School records Herbert, Grace, Horace & Edward are living together at 31 Bushwood Gardens in Kew in 1911 census
Father - Saul Solomon born 1818 Sheerness Mother - Elizabeth Solomon born 1830 Newington (maiden name Levy) Son - Herbert Lewis Solomon born 1871 Brixton Son - Joseph Solomon born 1861 Finsbury Son - George Solomon born 1873 Brixton Son - Reginald Solomon born 1877 Brixton Daughter - Isabel Solomon born 1865 Finsbury Son - Montague Solomon born Brixton 1866 Daughter - Rachel Solomon born 1860 Finsbury Son - Alfred Solomon born 1865 St Lukes Son - Frank Solomon born 1869 Lambeth Daughter - Maria Solomon born 1859 St Lukes Herbert is living with Elizabeth, Joseph, George & Reginald at 79 Linden Gardens Kensington on the 1901 census
We are trying to trace Rutherglen family members whose ancestors are: Father - John H Rutherglen born 1846 Stepney Mother - Elizabeth M Rutherglen born 1851 Camberwell Son - David H Rutherglen born 1880 Chiswick John, Elizabeth & David are living at Lynmouth Villa, Grove Park Road, Chiswick in 1901 census David is a witness to Herbert Solomon's & Grace Courtenay's wedding on their wedding certificate in 1901 in Kensington
We are trying to trace Chaplin/Travers family members whose ancestors are: Daughter - Eliza Anne Chaplin (Travers) born 1847 Wimborne Dorset Eliza is the boarding house keeper where Grace Courtenay & Gertrude Englehardt are staying on the 1901 census Eliza is the boarding house keeper where Grace Courtenay & Herbert Solomon are staying before they get married on their wedding certificate in 1901 Kensington Eliza is a witness to Herbert Solomon's & Grace Courtenay wedding on their wedding certificate in 1901 in Kensington - Herbert's father is dead but his mother is alive & disapproves of the wedding due to marrying an unmarried mother & different religions
We are trying to trace Englehardt/Barnes family members whose ancestors are: Daughter: Gertrude Englehardt (Barnes), born 1846, Cheltenham Gertrude is staying at the boarding house with Eliza A Chaplin & Grace Alice Maud Mary Courtenay at 133 Finborough Road, Kensington
We are trying to trace Court/Jezard/Thrasher family members whose ancestors are:
Father - Albert Edward Court born 1874 Norwood Mother - Ruby Court (Ruth Jezard & Ruth Thrasher & Ruby Jezard) born 1879 Norwood Son - Edward Leslie Court born 1905 Fulham Ruby is living at 7 Hildyard Road Fulham on her marriage record in Fulham Albert is living at 5 Merrington Road Fulham on his marriage record in Fulham When Ruth (Ruby) gets married in 1900 she states her father is Robert Jezard deceased - her birth father was Robert & step-father was Jezard - she was only a baby when Robert Thrasher died - could John Jezard be the father - or is Ruth remembering them both out of respect - marriage ordered Albert & Ruby are living at 19 Dorset Mansions, Lillie Road Fulham in the 1901 census Louisa Thrasher is working as a servant in Dorset Mansions in the 1901 census Albert, Ruby & Edward are living at 52 Inglethorpe Street Fulham on Edward's birth certificate in 1905 Edward is living with Herbert Solomon, Grace Solomon & Horace Courtenay at 31 Bushwood Road, Kew in the 1911 census
Father - Thomas Gilbert Court born 1842 Maidstone Mother - Son - Albert Edward Court born 1874 Norwood Thomas & Albert are living at 30 Rayleigh Road, Kensington in 1911 census
We are trying to trace Seymour family members whose ancestors are: Ellen Seymour Ellen was a witness to Albert Edward Court & Ruby Court's (Ruth Jezard & Ruth Thrasher) marriage in 1900 in Fulham
We are trying to trace Kingsley family members whose ancestors are: Albert Kingsley Albert was a witness to Albert Edward Court & Ruby Court (Ruth Jezard & Ruth Thrasher) marriage in 1900 in Fulham
We are trying to trace Brooks family members whose ancestors are: Arthur Brooks Arthur was a witness to Albert Edward Court & Ruby Court (Ruth Jezard & Ruth Thrasher) marriage in 1900 in Fulham The Uhthoff family are staying with Jezards & Threshers at 133 Finborough Road & Annie Louisa Uhthoff's maiden name is Brookes
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MarieCeleste
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2 Nov 2012 20:28 |
Elaine, please remove your email and phone number.
It's impossible for us to follow so much info in one post and also spread over two threads: http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1313542
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Ozibird
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2 Nov 2012 20:38 |
Lorraine, there are countless warnings against giving personal info on the web such as contact details. I suggest you remove them quickly.
People who see these posts will contact you through GR Messages. GR will also let you know there are messages for you.
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Rambling
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2 Nov 2012 20:51 |
also on FLR,
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Ivy
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2 Nov 2012 20:53 |
I've used the "report" function under the heading "data protection" - not sure if this was right, but it seemed a way to suppress it quickly.
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GlitterBaby
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2 Nov 2012 20:54 |
Have sent a pm to the poster
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Ivy
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2 Nov 2012 20:57 |
I have now as well.
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jax
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2 Nov 2012 21:48 |
I cannot understand why these threads had to be reported before the poster was contacted by pm
After all its her email and phone number, not someone elses...seen much worse on the GR facebook page
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patchem
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2 Nov 2012 22:15 |
I agree with jax that it is better to pm the poster directly, as they have chosen to publicise their own addresses. However, some posters do not read their emails for days. It is against the site's terms and conditions, but surely that is up to genes to censure, not us? However, thanks to Ivy for acknowledging what she has done, even if I personally think she did not need to.
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Rambling
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2 Nov 2012 22:27 |
I would hope, if I was naive enough to put my full home address on an open site like this, that someone would have the sense to get it removed asap for my 'own good' , assuming I did not stick around to do it myself when prompted .
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jax
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2 Nov 2012 22:27 |
GR can edit out the email address's and phone numbers....but after I asked them to do this after the poster read and ignored my pm (I gave him 48 hours after opening the message)...they removed the post, so it depends who is working tomorrow or even monday as to whether the thread will be reinstated or not
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Ivy
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2 Nov 2012 23:04 |
Hi I've had a pm from Lorraine, saying that she cannot see how to edit her reported post.
Jax, is it the case that Lorraine's post will be unavailable to her now until a GR staff member looks at this?
Should I email GR directly and would that speed up the process, or are the boards unmanned all over the weekend?
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jax
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2 Nov 2012 23:07 |
Once reported nothing can be done until GR decides whether it stays or goes
Staff members maybe around tomorrow as I have known of posts being removed on a saturday morning/afternoon
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Ivy
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2 Nov 2012 23:12 |
OK thanks, will pm Lorraine.
I did point out in the report email that it was only the final paragraph of the post that had the contact details, so I hope that the staff will reinstate - either as edited, or to be edited by Lorraine?
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Ivy
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3 Nov 2012 10:15 |
Oh - I see that it has been reinstated but without removal of the contact details... I wonder if Lorraine is around to edit it out?
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Ivy
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3 Nov 2012 11:44 |
It looks like the contact details have been taken out now.
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Ivy
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3 Nov 2012 11:46 |
... so I am just adding some possible details for Gertrude Engelhardt:
Gertrude Helen Irene Barnes m Frederick Henry Charles Engelhardt in 1864 (4th q). The marriage took place in the Hastings registration district (Sussex).
They are seen together on the 1871 census in Clapham, Surrey. They have two small children, several servants. Gertrude’s age is given as 29, born Cheltenham (i.e. b approx 1842)
They are in Putney in 1881, initials only given, although “Gary Bowtell” has added a note on Ancestry giving the couple’s full names.
She may perhaps be identified with Irene G H Barnes, daughter of Joseph and Sarah Barnes, seen on the 1851 census living in Westminster. Joseph Barnes’ occupation is clerk to the solicitor general.
Joseph Barnes Head abt 1802 Mickleton, Gloucestershire, England Sarah H Barnes Wife abt 1801 Shepton Mallet, Somerset, England
Children of Joseph and Sarah H Barnes: Conglantine A Bell abt 1835 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Frederick S E Bell abt 1838 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Irene G H Bell abt 1841 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter (NB the Bell is a mistranscription on Ancestry of “Do”, for ditto)
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Ivy
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3 Nov 2012 11:48 |
1871 census:
Name: Gertrude H Engelhardt Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Frederick Engelhardt Gender: Female Where born: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Clapham Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Town: Clapham County/Island: Surrey Country: England Registration district: Wandsworth Sub-registration district: Clapham ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Household schedule number: 30 Piece: 698 Folio: 6 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Frederick Engelhardt 30 Gertrude H Engelhardt 29 Francis A Engelhardt 4 Infant Engelhardt 1 Month Elizabeth Spearing 53 Emily Bingle 26 Hannah Binns 30 Fanny Knapp 28 Harriet Geer 19
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Ivy
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3 Nov 2012 11:50 |
1881 census:
Name: G.H.J. Engelhardt [Gertrude.Helen Irene Engelhardt] <<< as submitted by Gary Bowtell on Ancestry - perhaps worth contacting Gary? Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: J.H.C. Engelhardt Gender: Female Where born: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Putney County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: Hazeldean Putney H Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Wandsworth Sub-registration district: Putney ED, institution, or vessel: 11a
Piece: 663 Folio: 52 Page Number: 9 Household Members: Name Age J.H.C. Engelhardt 40 G.H.J. Engelhardt 37 Mabel B. Engelhardt 10 Ethel Engelhardt 7 Marguerite Engelhardt 4 Walter Engelhardt 3 Charles Nealtuesen 62 Alicia 50 Chr. Spould 45 U. Forthe 42 Ada Welch 18 H. Watts 26 F. Preston 26 S. Lilley 23
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Lorraine Karen
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3 Nov 2012 14:11 |
Sorry GR and thank you everyone - contact details removed Lorraine
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