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Lorraine

It is utterly pointless for you to ask for info about people who stood as witnesses at weddings..............

There are multiple threads about this, and people are duplicating research.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1313545

Lorraine

'Deceased' fathers were very often invented.....so don't rely on info on marriage certs

I'm afraid I shall do no more for you on this, as you obviously already knew everything I found for you about the wretched Courtenay/Solomon link.

THANK YOU GENES REUNITED RESEARCHERS
SINCE THIS POSTING WE HAVE FOUND OUT THAT
ROBERT COURTENAY IS ACTUALLY ROBERT THRASHER

Grace Courtenay states on her wedding certificate to Herbert Solomon in 1901 Kensington that her father is Robert Courtenay deceased and a cab proprietor.

Grace is on the 1901 census living in Kensington
Grace is on the marriage register in 1901 Kensington
Grace is on the 1911 census living in Kew
Grace is on the death register 1941 Blackpool

THANK YOU GENES REUNITED RESEARCHERS
SINCE THIS POSTING WE HAVE FOUND OUT THAT
GRACE'S BIRTH MAIDEN NAME IS THRASHER (AND ONLY STARTED TO USE GRACE IN 1901)
GRACE COULD HAVE USED ANOTHER MAIDEN NAME OF JEZARD (AND ONLY STARTED TO USE GRACE IN 1901)
HAVE GRACE'S BIRTH REGISTER

However, we have not been able to find Grace's birth record - supposedly born in 1872-1877 in Holborn.

THANK YOU GENES REUNITED RESEARCHERS
SINCE THIS POSTING WE HAVE FOUND OUT THAT
GRACE'S BIRTH MAIDEN NAME IS THRASHER
WE HAVE FOUND GRACE ON 1881 CENSUS WITH FAMILY
WE HAVE FOUND GRACE ON 1891 AS A SERVANT

We have not been able to find Grace on the 1881 census or 1891 census.

Grace has two possible fathers but without being able to find Grace's birth certificate or Grace on a census with her family we can only guess.

THANK YOU GENES REUNITED RESEARCHERS
SINCE THIS POSTING WE HAVE FOUND OUT THAT
ROBERT COURTENAY IS NOT GRACE'S FATHER BUT IS ROBERT THRASHER

Possible fathers:

Marriage 1861 Holborn
Robert William Courtenay and is a hackney carriage driver
Sarah Perkins
We have checked through the censuses for Robert Courtenay and Sarah Courtenay and Grace does not appear on any censuses with them. However, Robert dies in 1899 and Grace states in 1901 on her wedding certificate that her father is dead.

An alternative father is Robert Isaac Courtenay born in Dublin in 1834
He marries in Lambeth in 1871 to Louisa Long and then seems to get married again in 1872 in Lambeth and again in 1879 in Lambeth to Mary Ann Bear.
Cannot find Robert in the 1871 census (which wouldn't help as Grace would not be born) but the 1881 census has only Mary Ann's children living with them and on the 1891 census Robert and Mary Ann are found at separate locations without Grace. Robert dies in 1896 which also fits in with Grace's father being dead for 1901 wedding.

Ruth Jezard is an actress.

She has been found in The Stage online archive.

Ruth Jezard played at The Royal Drury Lane Theatre, so is possibly how her sister (Grace) Alice met the aristocrat and had their illegitimate child or (Grace) Alice herself is an actress (we are still researching this).

These are the beautiful Victorian posters and programme with Ruth Jezard in the 1899 pantomime Jack & The Beanstalk - lavish productions that went on for months.
http://www.its-behind-you.com/gallery634.html