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MACDERMIDS on Scottish censuses

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rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Nov 2012 21:03

Alisoun,

It is worth noting that Scottish Statutory registration didn't begin until 1855.

Scottish certificates give more information than English ones. For example a birth after 1860 will give the date and place of the parents marriage. Marriage certificates give the names of both parents including the mother's maiden surname. Death certificates will name all spouse and the names of the deceased parents, including the mother's maiden surname if the informant knows the details.

Scotlandspeople is fairly cheap to use £7 for 30 credits, 1 credit to view search results and 5 to view / download the register entry or census image.

Births less than 100 years ago, marriages 75 and deaths in the last 50 years cannot be viewed online, you have to order certificates for these.


Alisoun

Alisoun Report 4 Nov 2012 20:29

oh Goodness thanks so much for this I wasn't expecting it .Now I'm going to look at a map to see where they lived and find out what a cloth lapper does .hopefully I can find some living cousins worldwide for my aunt ,in her 80's now that I have birth dates for Her aunts and uncles and spelling variants . My father always insisted it was spelt MacDermid which does seem to prevail as the family became more literate I suppose .
can't thank you enough

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Nov 2012 20:12

Malcolm's brother's birth gives their mother's maiden surname

name: Walter Mcdermid
gender: Male
birth date: 11 Oct 1856
birthplace: EASTWOOD,RENFREW,SCOTLAND
father's name: Duncan Mcdermid
mother's name: Agnes Mcfarlane
indexing project (batch) number: C11562-1
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 6035516

name: John Mcdermid
gender: Male
baptism/christening date:
baptism/christening place:
birth date: 16 Aug 1863
birthplace: OLD MONKLAND,LANARK,SCOTLAND
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Duncan Mcdermid
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Agnes Mcfarlane
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C11652-1
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 6035516
reference number:


name: Duncan Mcdermid
gender: Male
baptism/christening date:
baptism/christening place:
birth date: 26 Apr 1859
birthplace: OLD MONKLAND,LANARK,SCOTLAND
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Duncan Mcdermid
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Agnes Mcfarlane
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C11652-1
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 6035516
reference number:


name: Malcolm Mcdermid
gender: Male
baptism/christening date:
baptism/christening place:
birth date: 10 Jun 1861
birthplace: OLD MONKLAND,LANARK,SCOTLAND
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Duncan Mcdermid
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Agnes Farlane
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C11652-1
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 6035516
reference number:


name: Alexander Macdermid
gender: Male
baptism/christening date:
baptism/christening place:
birth date: 09 Feb 1866
birthplace: OLD MONKLAND,LANARK,SCOTLAND
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Duncan Macdermid
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Agnes Mcfarlane
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C11652-1
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 6035516
reference number:

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Nov 2012 20:11

This looks possible for the family in 1901.

Name: Malcolm Mcdermid
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Jeanie Mcdermid
Gender: Male
Where born: Old Monkland, Lanarkshire
Registration number: 652/1
Registration district: Old Monkland Western District
Civil parish: Old Monkland Western District
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 4, Burn Butts
Occupation: Cloth Lapper
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 131
Line: 12
Roll: CSSCT1901_345
Household Members: Name Age
Malcolm Mcdermid 39
Jeanie Mcdermid 37 b. Cambuslang, Lanarkshire
Duncan Mcdermid 18 Grocer's Clerk, b. Old Monkland, Lanarkshire
Agnes Mcdermid 15 Bleachfield Worker, b. Glasgow
Jeanie Mcdermid 12 b. Glasgow
Andrew Mcdermid 9 b. Old Monkland, Lanarkshire
Malcolm Mcdermid 7 b. Old Monkland, Lanarkshire
Walter Mcdermid 4 b. Old Monkland, Lanarkshire



Note the spelling of the surname so remember to select "surname variants" if you are searching on Scotlandspeople.

1891 -

Name: Malcolm McDermid
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Jeanie McDermid
Gender: Male
Where born: Old Monkland, Lanarkshire
Registration number: 652/1
Registration district: Old Monkland Western District
Civil parish: Old Monkland Western District
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Kenmuir St 4 Burn Butts
Occupation: Clothlapper
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 71
Line: 17
Roll: CSSCT1891_317
Household Members: Name Age
Malcolm McDermid 29
Jeanie McDermid 27
Duncan McDermid 8
Agnes McDermid 5
Jeanie McDermid 2

Your grandfather's birth registration (available to view / download from Scotlandspeople will give the date and place of his parents marriage.


name: Andrew Kyle Macdermid
gender: Male
birth date: 24 Aug 1891
birthplace: Old Monkland Western, Lanark, Scotland
father's name: Malcolm Macdermid
mother's name: Jeannie Kyle Macdermid
indexing project (batch) number: C01957-7
system origin: Scotland-EASy
source film number: 255148


Yet a different spelling of the surname in 1881.

Name: Malcom McDiarmid
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Duncan McDiarmid
Mother's name: Agnes McDiarmid
Gender: Male
Where born: Carmyle, Lanarkshire
Registration number: 652/1
Registration district: Old Monkland Western District
Civil parish: Old Monkland Western District
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Carmyle
Occupation: Cloth Lapper
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 42
Line: 7
Roll: cssct1881_265
Household Members: Name Age
Duncan McDiarmid 52 Cloth Dyer, b. Pollokshaws, Renfrewshire
Agnes McDiarmid 54 b. Pollokshaws, Renfrewshire
Malcom McDiarmid 19
John McDiarmid 17

1871

Name: Duncan Mcdearmid
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Agnes Mcdearmid
Gender: Male
Where born: Pollockshaws, Lanarkshire
Registration number: 652/1
Registration district: Old Monkland Western District
Civil parish: Old Monkland
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Carmyle
Occupation: Bleachworker
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 36
Line: 18
Roll: CSSCT1871_148
Household Members: Name Age
Duncan Mcdearmid 42
Agnes Mcdearmid 44
Walter Mcdearmid 14
Welcom Mcdearmid 9 <<<Mistranscription of Malcolm?
John Mcdearmid 7
Alexander Mcdearmid 5


1881

Name: Jeanie Kyle
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: Andw R Kyle
Gender: Female
Where born: Lanarksh, Cambuslang
Registration number: 652/1
Registration district: Old Monkland Western District
Civil parish: Old Monkland Western District
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Cairndl Side St.
Occupation: Dressmaker
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 44
Line: 7
Roll: cssct1881_265
Household Members: Name Age
Andw R Kyle 49 Spirit Merchant, b. Rutherglen, Lanarkshire
James Kyle 22
Janet Kyle 20
Jeanie Kyle 17
Christina Kyle 10
Andrew Kyle 5
Mary Kyle 5

???

1871

Name: Andrew Kyle
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Christina Kyle
Gender: Male
Where born: Rutherglen, Lanark
Registration number: 627
Registration district: Cambuslang
Civil parish: Cambuslang
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Silverbanks
Occupation: Coal Miner
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 51
Line: 20
Roll: CSSCT1871_119
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Kyle 39
Christina Kyle 37
David Kyle 18
John Kyle 16
Elizabeth Kyle 14
James Kyle 12

name: Jane Kyle
gender: Female
birth date: 14 Jun 1863
birthplace: CAMBUSLANG,LANARK,SCOTLAND
father's name: Andrew Kyle
mother's name: Christina Fleming
indexing project (batch) number: C11627-1
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 6035516

Births for most of Jane / Jeanie Kyle's siblings are on the Familysearch.org. Website.

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Nov 2012 12:09

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

Although managed for the National Record Office of Scotland by GR's parent company, it is independent of GR with its own web address.

You can make free searches, but need to buy credits for the details.

Alisoun

Alisoun Report 4 Nov 2012 10:48

Thanks Reggie can I do that from this site or is it another one ?

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Nov 2012 10:05

You have to buy credits for Scotlands people website to see 1911 Scottish census....and the birth registrations

There is no other source.

It is not a subscription site, so lookups by GR members are not an option

Alisoun

Alisoun Report 4 Nov 2012 04:18

Jean must have lived into the 1960.s because we have a photo of 4 generations of Macdermid .they looked rather dour on their diamond wedding aniversary photo so malcomlived to 1955 at least too *SORRY that photo is father's maternal grandparents .malcom macdermid and jean Kyle Macdermid WERE bothdeceased before 1916
No dates for The children and they dispersed; names were, Andrew
Duncan
Annie/Agnes (married J Robertson and went to USA,)
malcom
jeannie (m. J Black went to new zealand, Walter killed in WW1)
James ,
Thomas Allen ( my grandad ,married Mary Blain Stevenson had daughter Mary and son Eric b1930 moved to Plymouth.was in navy
Christine (went to USA) ,John (USA0

Alisoun

Alisoun Report 4 Nov 2012 04:08

How do i get on to the 1911 census for Scotland ?
I'd like to find the birth year of Grandad Mac' s siblings
He was born in Glasgow on 18/7/1903 father Malcom macdermid married Jean Kyle c1895 they had 10 children