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BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 20 Nov 2012 18:19

Under Stowaways;

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Frank Battersby
Name: Frank Battersby
Birth Date: abt 1900
Age: 24
Port of Departure: St John, New Brunswick, Canada
Arrival Date: 2 Feb 1924
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Montlaurier
Search Ship Database: View the 'Montlaurier' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific Steamship Line
Official Number: 144022

81 Flood Street address given

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 20 Nov 2012 18:16

Just for interest;

Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924 about Frank Battersby
Name: Frank Battersby
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Birth Place: London, England
Age: 24
Date of Arrival: 13 Aug 1923
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Laconia

Went looking for work, NOK is Mrs Battersby, address 81 Flood Street.

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 20 Nov 2012 13:24

Think this maybe Frederick Johns 2nd marriage;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1894 (>99%)
>>>>>>Battersby Frederick Paddington 1a 138
Drew Louisa Paddington 1a 138
>>>>>Hake Kate Paddington 1a 138

She uses Susan also;

1871 England Census about Susan Hake
Name: Susan Hake
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Eli Hake
Mother's Name: Mary A Hake
Gender: Female
Where born: Cricket St Thomas, Somerset, England
Civil parish: Hawkchurch <<<<<
Town: Wylde Court
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Registration district: Axminster
Sub-registration district: Axminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 30
Piece: 2032
Folio: 9
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Eli Hake 42
Mary A Hake 36
Samuel Hake 14
Elizabeth Hake 6
Susan Hake 4
Sarah Hake 2


1881 England Census about Susan Hake
Name: Susan Hake
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Hawkchurch, Devon, England
Civil parish: Chard
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street Address: Fore Street
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Domestic Serv
Registration district: Chard
Sub-registration district: Chard

Susan disappears after this, but;

1891 England Census about Kate Hake
Name: Kate Hake
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Dorset, England
Civil parish: St Paul Covent Garden
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Strand
Sub-registration district: St Mary le Strand
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 216
Folio: 5
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Mapleson 35
Malina Mapleson 33
Kate Hake 24
Susan Buore 18

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 20 Nov 2012 13:04

1911 England Census about William Battersby
Name: William Battersby
Age in 1911: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Stonehouse, Devon, England
Civil parish: Lewisham
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 8 Handen Road, Lee S E
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: POLICE SERGEANT
Registration district: Lewisham
Registration District Number: 29
Sub-registration district: Lee
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Piece: 2744
Household Members:
Name Age
William Battersby 36
Lottie Battersby 25
Lancelot Battersby 13 <<<<<<<<<<<<
Dorethy Battersby 12
Edward Battersby 7
Leonard Battersby 1


1881 England Census about Henry E. Buttersby
Name: Henry E. Buttersby
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George Buttersby
Mother's Name: Caroline Buttersby
Gender: Male
Where born: Stonehouse, Devon, England
Civil parish: East Stonehouse
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street Address: 11 Durnford St
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: East Stonehouse
Sub-registration district: East Stonehouse
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2204
Folio: 11
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
George Buttersby 59
Caroline Buttersby 40
John F. Buttersby 18 <<<< Frank Stewarts father on baptism??
Charles O. Buttersby 7 <<< Frank Stewarts father???
Henry E. Buttersby 6 <<<< Full name William Henry Edward
Mary E. Buttersby 3
Fanny Leeson 73
Ellen Welaman 72

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 20 Nov 2012 12:45

Just to add more confusion!!!!

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Dorothy Mariana Battersby
Name: Dorothy Mariana Battersby
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Age: 22
Spouse Name: Lancelot Horace Battersby
Spouse Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 31 Jul 1920
Parish: Walham Green St John
Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Father Name: Frederick Battersby >> Police Inspector
Spouse Father Name: Edward Battersby >> retired Police Constable
Register Type: Parish Register

It's looking likely that your Battersby family were a close knit one. Do I also see that Frank and his brother James marry sisters???

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 20 Nov 2012 12:38

In 1891 Fred Battersby is living with his "in laws". He has his sister living with him, and this is her marriage;

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Mary Emily Bertha Battersby
Name: Mary Emily Bertha Battersby
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Age: 27
Spouse Name: George Kessack
Spouse Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 26 Jun 1909
Parish: Chelsea Christ Church
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Father Name: George Battersby
Spouse Father Name: Andrew Kessack
Register Type: Parish Register

Now she marries from 81 FLOOD STREET!!!!

I wonder if Franks was "adopted" from his Uncle Fred????

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 20 Nov 2012 12:19

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about Marie Elizabeth Battersby
Name: Marie Elizabeth Battersby
Year: 1939
County or Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Ward or Division/Constituency: Chelsea
Street Address: 81 Flood Street

Caroline Ryder is also living there

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 20 Nov 2012 11:59

British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920 about Frank Stewart Battersby
Name: Frank Stewart Battersby
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Age at enlistment: 19
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 1016
Regiment Name: 17th Batt.Middlesex Regiment
Number of images: 8

Address is also 81 Flood Street, same as above

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 20 Nov 2012 11:58

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about Frank Stewart Battersby
Name: Frank Stewart Battersby
Year: 1923
County or Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Ward or Division/Constituency: Chelsea
Street Address: 1470 FlOOD STREET

At the same address is ;

Charles Alfred Battersby
Marie Elizabeth Battersby
James Clarence Battersby

and

Thomas and Amy Upson

Eddie

Eddie Report 20 Nov 2012 10:47

can anyone find a mary elizabeth battersby after 1891

Eddie

Eddie Report 19 Nov 2012 19:38

Hi its me again these battersby s are doing my head in John f battersby b1863 devon I can only find a marriage for him to a mary e davis 1880 stoke dameral devon but in the 1901c/1911c it states hes married to either a susan or kate His son archibalds baptism 1896 south kensington states father as john Frederick battersby

Eddie

Eddie Report 6 Nov 2012 13:54

Hi ive looked on the LDS site and charles and john frederick could of had the same parents Surname spellings buttersby battersby could be a typo error

Eddie

Eddie Report 6 Nov 2012 13:12

Thank you one and all for the info regards eddie

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 4 Nov 2012 15:25

Might be of interest, don't know:

Births Jun 1901 (>99%)
BATTERSBY James Clarence Chelsea 1a 406

Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 4 Nov 2012 15:23

Well spotted MarieCeleste!
So - do we think there are 2 Frank Stewart Battersby's or just one? I am starting to wonder if Frank was child to John but given to Charles and Marie as they had lost so many children?
Probably fantasising but it wouldn't be the first time this has happened.
Jan

ChristinaS

ChristinaS Report 4 Nov 2012 15:17

This is the only Battersby I can find registered in Devon.

What about Frederick and John Frederick?

Name: Charles Alfred Battersby
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1871
Registration district: East Stonehouse
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 327 (click to see others on page)


MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 4 Nov 2012 15:11

Following Jan's comment above, Frank Stewart Battersby's service records state he was discharged 1915 for having made a mis-statement about his age.

Address was 81 Flood Street, Chelsea.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 4 Nov 2012 14:58

Another query! Can anybody see a birth record for any other Frank Stewart Battersby because I can't. So where is the 1896 registration?
I am starting to cook up a story of wife-swapping and/or bigamy in my head, somebody stop me!!

ADDED Actually, I suspect Frank was born 1900 and fabricated his birth year to join up!

Jan

ChristinaS

ChristinaS Report 4 Nov 2012 14:51

All the baptisms, except Frank and James, are covered on the 1911 that brummiejan has posted above. Living with parents Frederick and Kate.

Archibald Howard
Ida May
Marie Florence Louise
Dorothy Malvina
Alexander Henry

Frederick Battersby married Kate Hake 18 94 Paddington

On the 1871 census, Kate is called Susan.

Frederick and Kate claim (on the 1911 census) to have been married and having had 7 children, all of whom are strill alive.

Looks like Frederick Battersby was married to a Mary Davies before he married Kate.

1891 census

Civil parish: Stoke Damerel
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
Town: Devonport

Philip H Davis - head
54
Fred H H Davis - son
16
Beatrice M C Davis - dau.
12
Mary A E Battersby - dau.
28
Martha A H Pope - dau.
26
James H H Pope - g.son
4
Frederick J W Battersby - s in law - Stonehouse
29
Emily May B Battersby - s in law's sister - Stonehouse
13

Sorry brummiejan, I see you've already posted this.




brummiejan

brummiejan Report 4 Nov 2012 14:45

I am chasing my tail, but I wondered if this is the marriage of Charles and Marie from the 1911 census above. This woman has the same name as the one possibly marrying John Frederick in 1880 (yes, I know her name should be Battersby if the same person!). Charles' middle name is def. Alfred (on 1896 Frank's military record).

Marriages Dec 1895 (>99%)
Battersby Charles Alfred St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 953
Bridgeman Frederick St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 953
Davis Mary Elizabeth St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 953
Moore Emily St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 953