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Hi
Many thanks too Jax , dea , sylvia , eringoborough, for finding some more info, which helps, big time.
answer to sylivia poss may be micheal & maragaret her parents and joseph is her brother, just seems with them being on the same area..so if this is the case have too look into micheal & margaret maybe see when they married and if they had other children..
answer to dea ..this fits has i have links to manchestr with bernard timlin her son.. died in manchester ..so possibly buried with him... even tho she was living in lancaster..they seem to move around a bit...
once again many thanks for all your help much appreciated..and a big help to my puzzle :-D

This looks likely to be her death:


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006 about Sarah A Timlin
Name: Sarah A Timlin
Birth Date: abt 1890
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1965
Age at Death: 75
Registration district: Manchester
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10e
Page: 501

Dea x

There are 2 Sarah McCartney Births Reg. Barrow in Furness (Lancaster) for the approx. time in question...

Sarah McCartney
Reg, June quarter 1889.
8E 873
Barrow in Furness


Sarah McCartney
Reg June quarter 1892
E

I suggest you widen your search to Ireland and Scotland.

Mother to Joseph Thomas Mccarthney is Margaret

Lancashire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1911
about Joseph Thomas McCartney
Name: Joseph Thomas McCartney
Birth Date: 14 Feb 1888
Baptism Date: 26 May 1888
Parish: Lancaster, St Mary
Father: Michael McCartney
Mother: Margaret McCartney
Reference Number: Pr 3262/1/16

No "h"

Elaine
On Ancestry baptism records I came across

Joseph Thomas McCarthney
Born Feb. 14th 1888
Baptised 26th May 1888
Abode 34 Bridge lane Lancaster
Father Michael but unable to read Mothers name
Only a few doors away from Sarah
Just wondering if they were relatives.

Hi jan

oh right,,,,eee no,,never mind, she a real mystery woman keepingit under her belt, but she must have made friends with this hannah..unfortunately bridge lane not much there now apart from the three mariners pub years ago there used to be houses along there, theyususaly have witness eithr family members but if she made her self the black sheep sort of she might not wanted any one there
sad aint it :-(..maybe holding a lot of secrets who knows!
many thanks again jan :-)
elaine

Not much help is it! In 1911 there was a McCardle family living at that address.

I would be willing to guess this is your Hannah Hayhurst:


1911 England Census about Hannah Hayhurst
Name: Hannah Hayhurst
Age in 1911: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Lancaster, England
Civil parish: Lancaster
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 26 Bridge Lane Lancaster
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Lodging House Keeper
Registration district: Lancaster
Registration District Number: 479
Sub-registration district: Lancaster
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Piece: 25533
Household Members:
Name Age
James Hayhurst 37
Hannah Hayhurst 35
E E Hayhurst 13
William Alice Hayhurst 10
Grace Hayhurst 8
William M Mullen 15
Herbert Oddy 16
Sarah Nuttall 62
Charles Warcham 38
Lan W Thompson 29

hi jan yes
william henry bowan
& hannah hayhurst
sarah lived 28 bridge lane lancaster & robert 12 Lucy Street lancaster
elaine

Who were the witnesses on the cert? And do you have an address for her on there?
Jan

sorry margee thanks for helping too
:-)

Hi Beverley w
I have there marriage cert but no father on it... and i just presume she was born in lancaster....
has jan found them on 1911 census which i did as well but and i didnt undstand ox either, so was stuck... tried to search in census but no luck, so possibly born somewhere else. :-(..... thats why came on here to see if any one could help my puzzle...
thanks for looking both of you
elaine

Apologies!

Jan, I think Elaine said she had the marriage certificate but no father's name for Sarah given.

I think you might need their marriage cert.
Jan

Births Jun 1910 (>99%)
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TIMLIN Mary Lancaster 8e 686

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Marriages Mar 1910 (>99%)
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McCARTHNEY Sarah Ann Lancaster 8e 1342
Timlin Robert Lancaster 8e 1342

I don't thin Sarah and son were born Lancaster -there is no birthplace in that column, and 'OX' i the column relating to people born abroad - whatever that means!
Jan

Is this the family in 1911?

1911 England Census
about Robert Timlin Name: Robert Timlin
Age in 1911: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Lancaster, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Lancaster
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 5 Wilsons Yard Spring Garden St Lancaster
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Rubbing Laborer
Registration district: Lancaster
Registration District Number: 479
Sub-registration district: Lancaster
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Piece: 25537
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Timlin 28
Sarah Ann Timlin 23
Mary Timlin 1